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Author Topic:   COVID vaccine works - we're saved!
Percy
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Message 301 of 307 (891042)
01-14-2022 8:58 AM
Reply to: Message 271 by Porkncheese
01-12-2022 9:10 AM


The image you provided just ignores what's been explained and repeats your ignorance. In the context of vaccines, immunity doesn't mean actual literal immunity. There's not a person on this Earth who is literally immune to any virus. All anyone can have is pre-existing resistance created through a prior infection or vaccination. This resistance is in the form of antibodies specific to that virus, and of B-cells that remember past infections and can produce fresh antibodies. Those whose immune system includes the proper antibodies and/or B-cells is in a much better position to fight off future infections and is much less likely to infect other people. Masks and avoiding indoor gatherings are also important.

What do you hope to accomplish by repeating false information over and over again?

--Percy


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Percy
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Message 302 of 307 (891043)
01-14-2022 9:10 AM
Reply to: Message 280 by Porkncheese
01-12-2022 10:15 AM


Porkncheese writes:

FYI Australia claims to be 90% vaxed and its worse than ever. That refutes most of what you babbled on about

Do you have a special misinformation site you use, because you can't seem to get anything right. Australia is 80% one shot and 77% both shots. Even if it were 90% how would it refute "most of what you babbled on about," because it's not possible to know who "you" is or what they "babbled on about" because you didn't reply to anyone, quote anything, or even mention a name.

You were basically trying to justify the atrocities as normal just cos its law. A sicko without morals

Well now you're just throwing hand grenades into the discussion in an obvious attempt to distract attention from the fact that you've been unable to present any true or substantive arguments.

--Percy


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Message 303 of 307 (891044)
01-14-2022 9:15 AM
Reply to: Message 281 by Porkncheese
01-12-2022 10:21 AM


Porkncheese writes:

Again, the average age of covid deaths is not 85. This incorrect figure probably comes from the fact that approximately half of covid deaths are people 85 and over, but that's not how you calculate an average. The average age is probably fairly high, though, likely in the 70's somewhere.

This is also disturbing in the lack of concern for the infections low-risk people cause in higher risk age groups.

--Percy


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Message 304 of 307 (891045)
01-14-2022 9:17 AM
Reply to: Message 285 by Porkncheese
01-12-2022 10:32 AM


Porkncheese writes:

The acceptance of human sacrifice... So its ok if people die from the vax as long as its saving some others...

You're just throwing out random nonsense now while replying to no one in particular nor to anything anyone actually said.

--Percy


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Message 305 of 307 (891046)
01-14-2022 9:46 AM


Porkncheese Suspension Rescinded
Concerning the Porkncheese suspension, as I slowly caught up in this thread, reading and responding as Percy, I expected to eventually see a warning from a moderator, then see Porkncheese ignore or spurn the warning in spectacular fashion, and then see a one week suspension. But there was no warning from any moderator, just a suspension.

Moderator guidelines strongly advise moderators to warn before acting. Because that didn't happen in this case I am rescinding Porkncheese's suspension.

Porkncheese, this is your warning. Please discuss the topic constructively, which includes making a sincere effort to support your position with factual information. Those sincerely interested in constructive discussion have little difficulty figuring out how to do it. There will be no babysitting from moderators.

As I am a participant I will not be moderating this thread. I am just stepping in in this one instance to correct our failure to follow our own moderator guidelines.

AbE: I found the warning in the Belief Versus The Scientific Method thread at Message 416, but it was not specific to any individual, and Porkncheese never posted in that thread after the warning, so I am still rescinding the suspension.

Edited by Admin, : AbE.


--Percy
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Percy
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Message 306 of 307 (891069)
01-15-2022 1:32 PM


Vaccination Advisable Where Pregnancy Involved
A study based in Scotland and released this week by Nature Medicine found that:

  • Unvaccinated pregnant women are more likely to become hospitalized for covid-19.

  • Their babies are more likely to die within a month of birth.

During the period studied, December 2020 until October 2021:

  • 77% of infected pregnant women were unvaccinated, more than three times more likely.

  • 90% of infected pregnant women who required hospitalization or critical care were unvaccinated, nine times more likely.

Sources:


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Message 307 of 307 (891070)
01-15-2022 1:47 PM
Reply to: Message 306 by Percy
01-15-2022 1:32 PM


Re: Vaccination Advisable Where Pregnancy Involved
So don't get jabbed without the jab. Good advice.

Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.

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