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Percy Member Posts: 22954 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 6.9
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The image you provided just ignores what's been explained and repeats your ignorance. In the context of vaccines, immunity doesn't mean actual literal immunity. There's not a person on this Earth who is literally immune to any virus. All anyone can have is pre-existing resistance created through a prior infection or vaccination. This resistance is in the form of antibodies specific to that virus, and of B-cells that remember past infections and can produce fresh antibodies. Those whose immune system includes the proper antibodies and/or B-cells is in a much better position to fight off future infections and is much less likely to infect other people. Masks and avoiding indoor gatherings are also important.
What do you hope to accomplish by repeating false information over and over again? --Percy
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Percy Member Posts: 22954 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 6.9
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Porkncheese writes: FYI Australia claims to be 90% vaxed and its worse than ever. That refutes most of what you babbled on about Do you have a special misinformation site you use, because you can't seem to get anything right. Australia is 80% one shot and 77% both shots. Even if it were 90% how would it refute "most of what you babbled on about," because it's not possible to know who "you" is or what they "babbled on about" because you didn't reply to anyone, quote anything, or even mention a name.
You were basically trying to justify the atrocities as normal just cos its law. A sicko without morals Well now you're just throwing hand grenades into the discussion in an obvious attempt to distract attention from the fact that you've been unable to present any true or substantive arguments. --Percy
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Percy Member Posts: 22954 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 6.9 |
Porkncheese writes: Again, the average age of covid deaths is not 85. This incorrect figure probably comes from the fact that approximately half of covid deaths are people 85 and over, but that's not how you calculate an average. The average age is probably fairly high, though, likely in the 70's somewhere. This is also disturbing in the lack of concern for the infections low-risk people cause in higher risk age groups. --Percy
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Percy Member Posts: 22954 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 6.9 |
Porkncheese writes: The acceptance of human sacrifice... So its ok if people die from the vax as long as its saving some others... You're just throwing out random nonsense now while replying to no one in particular nor to anything anyone actually said. --Percy
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Admin Director Posts: 13108 From: EvC Forum Joined: |
Concerning the Porkncheese suspension, as I slowly caught up in this thread, reading and responding as Percy, I expected to eventually see a warning from a moderator, then see Porkncheese ignore or spurn the warning in spectacular fashion, and then see a one week suspension. But there was no warning from any moderator, just a suspension.
Moderator guidelines strongly advise moderators to warn before acting. Because that didn't happen in this case I am rescinding Porkncheese's suspension. Porkncheese, this is your warning. Please discuss the topic constructively, which includes making a sincere effort to support your position with factual information. Those sincerely interested in constructive discussion have little difficulty figuring out how to do it. There will be no babysitting from moderators. As I am a participant I will not be moderating this thread. I am just stepping in in this one instance to correct our failure to follow our own moderator guidelines. AbE: I found the warning in the Belief Versus The Scientific Method thread at Message 416, but it was not specific to any individual, and Porkncheese never posted in that thread after the warning, so I am still rescinding the suspension. Edited by Admin, : AbE.
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Percy Member Posts: 22954 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 6.9 |
A study based in Scotland and released this week by Nature Medicine found that:
During the period studied, December 2020 until October 2021:
Sources:
--Percy
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8654 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 6.6 |
So don't get jabbed without the jab. Good advice.
Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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Percy Member Posts: 22954 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 6.9 |
There's a new omicron variant called BA.2. The original omicron variant is called BA.1. Initial indications are that BA.2 is about 120% more transmissible than BA.1. This is a much smaller increase than that of BA.1 over the delta variant, which was 500%. There is as yet no indication that it increases hospitalizations or is more vaccine resistant, but it is very early days in collecting data. It has spread significantly in the UK and Denmark, and there are already cases in the US. (https://www.medpagetoday.com/...ial-reports/exclusives/96833)
--Percy
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Tangle Member Posts: 9583 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 6.5
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And there are two new SARS-COV-2 "Variants of Interest" that have advanced enough to get greek letters. Lambda and Mu. The fat lady has not yet sung.
Tracking SARS-CoV-2 variants
It's evolving but it's still a virus ;-)Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4597 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 9.1
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I saw on the news this morning that N95 masks are going to be available free from pharmacies across the U.S.
Here's how to get free N95 masks from pharmacies or community health centers The story also mentioned that the masks have an electrostatic charge that makes them 10x more effective at filtering out particles. My wife and I have been using N95 masks since they became generally available from Amazon, but staying away from other people has probably been the most effective strategy, along with full vaccination. My wife has also perfected shopping online with curbside pick up for all our groceries. She has a spreadsheet, so she knows how much we have of everything and online price comparisons are a lot less time consuming than in-store shopping. She says she never wants to go back to pre-pandemic shopping.What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9489 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 6.1 |
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Edited by Admin, : Admin edit.What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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jar Member (Idle past 98 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined:
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I bought a supply of N95 and KN95 masks fairly early on and still have quite a few.
But I have not gone into a store in over two years now and have little or no incentive to do so in the foreseeable future.My Website: My Website
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4597 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 9.1 |
She anticipates it may be months before smaller health centers like hers get the N95 masks to distribute. She is hopeful but realistic. Yeah, supply chains really have broken down in a lot of different ways during the pandemic. It has certainly exposed the deficiency of manufacturing of critical strategic supplies in the U.S. also. Prices on lots of products have skyrocketed too. I use a lot of AA batteries in the electronic flashes in my imaging system. Energizer Ultimate Lithiums last about 4 times longer than alkalines but they are more expensive. The last batch of 100 that I ordered were $2.09 each, about 3x more than they were before the pandemic and take 2-3 weeks for delivery.What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4597 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 9.1
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But I have not gone into a store in over two years now and have little or no incentive to do so in the foreseeable future. Yep we are feeling the same. I did go into stores during the cross country trip at the end of August, but it was limited and fast for essential supplies. And we camped the whole way too.What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4597 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 9.1
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Washington State trooper who refused to get vaccinated dies of COVID-19
quote: It's difficult to see this as anything but his own fault. To Serve and Protect the Public was clearly not his motto.What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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