Conversations with God

Just to butt in here for a mo'. Like everything else spoken here now, you've had this explained to you dozens of times but you never, ever incorporate it. Instead you put your own spin on it to suit your own agenda. I really don't know what to do about that except keep bloody explaining it.

For me it was just a gradual realisation that what I'd been told was bullshit. Bore no resemblance to reality. A very similar experience to realising that Father Christmas didn't exist. I did not swop god for critical thinking, or science or humanism - belief just dissolved and life went on exactly as normal.

And we've seen the persecution/masochism tactic before too.

If you walk into the snake pit, expect to get bitten. And don't expect the snakes to care much for your love and forgiveness; that's for your own imagined and selfish gratification, not ours. Does it make you feel ever-so pure and strong in your faith? Examine your conscience.

Atheism as a belief! Really, you'll have to a lot better than that in here Chuck.

I'd like to see that, and you provide the links please.

Then I suggest you get back to your pulpit, this is a debate site, we don't listen to sermons. If you can't support your claims in open discussion, this isn't the place for you.

btw, I'm half way through your Dawkins/Lennox "debate" - which again, isn't a debate - and so far can see no reason at all for your claim that Dawkins was "destroyed". In fact all I see is the same old stuff being rolled out that we've all heard a thousand times here. Absolutely nothing new there at all.

Another reminder: this is a public debate site, not a place where you come to provide private religious counselling or proselytise without challenge.

People don't agree which of our many gods are 'right'. People all agree that everyone else's god is wrong.

Generally speaking, anyone reading the Old Testament with no prior assumptions or knowledge would say that the god in that story had the temperament and morality of a narcissistic, psychotic mass murderer. And therefore 'wrong'.

So I'm not sure what you mean by 'right'.

Edited by Tangle, : No reason given.