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Message 87 of 391 (884469)
02-21-2021 10:49 AM
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02-21-2021 1:47 AM


Re: Charismatic Chaos Revisited
And for the record, no--I'm not going to say in my own words what the speaker can and does say far more eloquently.

Thanks for confirming that it is not worth watching.

If you angrily refuse to peruse it, its your loss.

No anger here. However, communication via youtube video seems a horribly ineffective method, in addition to wasting a lot of time.

Sure, I watch some videos when I think I can learn from them. But when the title suggests Christian Apologetics, I will give it a pass.


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Message 93 of 391 (884484)
02-21-2021 5:08 PM
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02-21-2021 2:05 PM


Re: Charismatic Chaos Revisited
Reality will show you what all of the "evidence" that you worship has failed to do.

Just a little hint -- youtube videos are not reality.

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Message 137 of 391 (884745)
03-06-2021 12:46 PM
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03-06-2021 9:52 AM


Re: Liberal Censorship. The Civil War Is Real
Amazon Begins Censoring Books

Amazon made a business decision on how best to maximize their profits. This isn't censorship -- it is capitalism.

I must say that I side with the conservatives on this one. This whole idea of relativism as a world view is wrong on so many levels.

Conservatives are relativists. They deny that, of course. But you only have to watch them to see their relativism at work.

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Message 229 of 391 (884987)
03-18-2021 12:19 PM
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03-18-2021 11:37 AM


Re: the classic compartmentalization of Biblical Christianity
Isaiah explains basic Christianity quite well.

It starts with Jesus.

Those two contradict one another.

If it starts with Jesus, the Isaiah wasn't talking about Christianity at all.


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Message 334 of 391 (885868)
04-28-2021 10:14 AM
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04-28-2021 7:08 AM


Re: Why Stick Around? My Belief
One must learn to differentiate between the glory of almighty God, ...

That's mostly something that happens in your imagination.

, ... and the evil that has been done in His name.

And that is all to evident in the world.

Jesus said "No one gets to the Father except through me."

Jesus often spoke in metaphors.

Christianity is all about taking those metaphors as if they were intended literally, and taking the ideas intended as literal as if they were metaphors.


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Message 336 of 391 (885875)
04-28-2021 10:49 AM
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04-28-2021 10:16 AM


Faith in Christ is all we need.

But what does that mean?

Jesus said that we should love our neighbor. For me, faith meant that we should follow those teachings even when we were doubtful of their value.

But, for most Christians, faith means believing is a ridiculous made up story.

Like many on this forum I was once mired in the same Naturalism / evolution doctrine that had been preached to me since I was a child.

Oh, good. Perhaps you can tell me what is this naturalism doctrine. I am frequently accused of naturalism, but I have never been able to work out what it even means. An actual presentation of the doctrine would be helpful.

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Message 340 of 391 (885882)
04-28-2021 12:02 PM
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04-28-2021 11:51 AM


Naturalism is the belief, taught in elementary school science texts, that all things in the universe have a "natural" explanation.

I don't think I was ever taught that.

Yes, we should look for a natural explanation. But there's no guarantee that we will always find one.


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Message 372 of 391 (885960)
04-29-2021 10:40 PM
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04-29-2021 10:20 PM


Re: Why Pressie Ringo Became An Atheist
ringo charges me with making Him up. I didnt write the book, however.

But that's the whole point. Much of what you believe does not come from the book. It has been spoon fed to you by religious con men.

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Message 390 of 391 (891129)
01-18-2022 10:30 AM
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01-18-2022 9:49 AM


Re: Why You People Think The Way You Do
One question that I have currently for Theodoric and his charge that my entire inner and outer personality is based on assumptions is how does this differ from anybody else? Facts can only take you so far.

I am not Theodoric, so I'll answer for myself.

Yes, it could be said that my life is based on assumptions. But they are assumptions that have been well tested.

Actually, I don't really think my life is based on assumptions. My life is based on practices that have turned out to work. We often describe that in terms of beliefs and assumptions, but the belief story seems completely wrong. When a child tries to walk, she does not make assumptions about the world or about whether the ground is solid. She just tries to walk. And if she falls, then she tries again in a different way. Eventually she become proficient in walk. But she learned that through trial and error, not through beliefs and assumptions.

With religion, you try out prayer. And it doesn't work. But, because of the indoctrination, you keep trying instead of moving on to try something else.


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