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Phat Member Posts: 18298 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
AZPul3 writes: By whom? Ourselves?? If in fact *we* are the people, why do we spend all of our time arguing with and fighting with each other? So that's fine as long as we don't call total anarchy 'civil war'. Is it a civil war if there are like 180 different factions? Warlords? Think feudal Japan, or Europe's 100-years war. That wouldn't be a civil war. That would be well after all the 'civil' had disintegrated. Nah, somebody will nuke somebody who will nuke somebody back and their friends will nuke somebody's friends, and well just lots of nukes going off all over the planet for a few years. We're fucked."A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** “…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox “A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.” “The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
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jar Member (Idle past 414 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Phat writes: Martin Luther King was a social justice warrior who understood this. Malcolm X was not. You truly are totally clueless. Malcom X taught and preached exactly what Jesus commanded his followers to preach and do. He was a true follower of Jesus while you and much of modern Christianity are simply GOATS. If Jesus were to return today many like Malcolm X and Mohamud would be standing at his right hand while you and all the Apologists would simply be thrown away.My Website: My Website
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9140 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3 |
I need to jump on this too.
Martin Luther King was a social justice warrior who understood this. Malcolm X was not.
What the F, do you know about Malcolm X? In what way was he not a social justice warrior? Because he was a follower of Islam?You have fallen for the same lies of the RWNJ's that you always fall for. Malcolm X was not anti-white. Maybe you should read his words before you attack him. quote: Malcolm X's Letter From Hajj | Muslim Memo Your white, christian privilege no longer astounds me. I expect it. But to attack someone's legacy out of ignorance should be beyond the pale even for you. If you want to claim he did not fight for social justice, bring the facts, bring the evidence. Because no matter how it feels in your heart, facts and evidence matter.What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Phat Member Posts: 18298 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
I read only a few short comments from websites where they implied that he was not for unification between blacks and whites as was Dr.King. After reading your link, I realize that I spoke too soon. I withdraw my accusation.
I still believe that Jesus is the best answer for the world and resent accusations of white Christian Privilege. I sometimes feel as if a global conflict is developing where the unification of all people will be seen as noble and empathetic and where the Christians get pushed out for being too exclusivist. Perhaps I am being influenced by what you call Right-Wing Christian Nationalism. I certainly feel no affinity for January 6th or the Nationalistic push to protect Trump. I do support the message of Christianity over the message of a one-world international brotherhood (and sisterhood)."A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** “…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox “A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.” “The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
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nwr Member Posts: 6409 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 5.3
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I sometimes feel as if a global conflict is developing where the unification of all people will be seen as noble and empathetic and where the Christians get pushed out for being too exclusivist.
Read the teachings of Jesus. It seems clear to me that Jesus would have welcomed the unification of all people. If Christians feel excluded from this, it is because they are not following the teachings of Jesus.Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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jar Member (Idle past 414 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Phat writes: I do support the message of Christianity over the message of a one-world international brotherhood (and sisterhood). Yet it was Jesus whose message was and is that there is only one world international brotherhood (and sisterhood). We've been down this path over and over and over again yet all you do is post messages that are the direct opposite of what Jesus taught. Luke 10:
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Phat Member Posts: 18298 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
First off, why do you jump towards dismissing apologetics yet feed into this universal brotherhood of love and inclusion which is what "Jesus taught"?
At least read some of what I have read without dismissing it wholesale.
Malcolm X and the Christian Ethic of Violence Theodoric was right in that I judged Malcolm X without knowing or understanding much about him. Hopefully, you guys won't make the same mistake by dismissing Christian Apologetics without reading the article that I linked to. What I got from it was this much:
quote: The problem in the world today that frightens me is the demise of the United States of America. Russia and China are already testing the diplomacy of strength that we had for so many years.
Russia testing West's resolve Some points from this article:
quote: This is what keeps me up at night. The demise of America as a superpower. Humility will be the new drug needed to calm Americans that are already being told that they need to give up their privilege. May Jesus teach me and protect me."A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** “…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox “A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.” “The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
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nwr Member Posts: 6409 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 5.3 |
The problem in the world today that frightens me is the demise of the United States of America.
And yet you vote Republican. Why is that?Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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Phat Member Posts: 18298 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
I do not vote Republican, ever since Obama.
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** “…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox “A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.” “The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
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jar Member (Idle past 414 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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Basics Phat, learn the basics.
The Romans were once the super-power yet all the areas that were Roman are still doing just fine. The Dutch were once the super-power yet all the areas that were Dutch are still doing just fine. The French were once the super-power yet all the areas that were French are still doing just fine. The Austro-Hungarians were once the super-power yet all the areas that were Austro-Hungarian are still doing just fine. The British were once the super-power yet all the areas that were British are still doing just fine. Stop listening to the sophomoric right wing carny pitchmen and the Christian conmen. Throw God away.
Phat writes: First off, why do you jump towards dismissing apologetics yet feed into this universal brotherhood of love and inclusion which is what "Jesus taught"? Seriously Phat? Edited by jar, : hit wrong key.My Website: My Website
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8527 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.2 |
Do you vote down ballot? Off-year? Non-Federal? I hope not.
Doesn't matter. To my mind you shouldn't vote and I would thank you to not vote. No heartfelt believing christian should be allowed to vote. Can't entrust a vote to a zombie, an intellectually brain dead christian with a priest directing his thoughts. Can't outright ban you, but like the republicans are now doing to blue districts, we could erect barriers to keep you from accessing the ballot. In order to vote you and your fellow believers all have to start at designated churches and travel as a group to your designated poll site which is only 12 miles away but you have to walk the entire way ... on your knees ... led by your priest carrying a big wooden cross, jesus or no jesus nailed to the thing as the congregation so desires. There should be a concerted campaign on social media to say that christians voting is evil and is encouraged by the devil himself. Voting sustains this godless secular democracy and the devil knows the best way to destroy a godless secular democracy is to not vote. But the devil doesn't want to destroy this godless secular democracy. As long as it continues he can advance his war against the blessed righteous theocracy of jesus. If the devil won't work to bring it all down then you, believing christian, must. You must not vote. It is the devil's work. Maybe we could get the russians to spread a few million memes. Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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Phat Member Posts: 18298 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Seriously Phat? Darn tootin. You mention what Jesus said to do yet you fail to emphasize what He also said must happen.
What makes you think that just because the Dutch, British, French, and Austro-Hungarians outcomes will mirror that of the United States? We are in different times now. The global population is reaching critical mass. Resources are becoming scarce. Pestilence(pandemics) may well become more of the norm. We are nearing the final days. Once the economy collapses, money hyper-inflates, the bill gets paid at the expense of every US citizen, and our status as an empire comes to an end, I will again ask you if things will go on as they always did when past empires fell.
2 Peter 3:2-10 writes: . 3 First of all, you must understand that in the last days' scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires. 4 They will say, "Where is this 'coming' he promised? Ever since our fathers died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation." 5 But they deliberately forget that long ago by God's word the heavens existed and the earth was formed out of water and by water. 6 By these waters also the world of that time was deluged and destroyed. 7 By the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men. 8 But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day. 9 The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance. 10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything in it will be laid bare."A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** “…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox “A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.” “The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
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jar Member (Idle past 414 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
YAWN
Phat writes: We are nearing the final days. Once the economy collapses, money hyper-inflates, the bill gets paid at the expense of every US citizen, and our status as an empire comes to an end, I will again ask you if things will go on as they always did when past empires fell. Sure Phat, come back then. Too funny!My Website: My Website
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Tangle Member Posts: 9504 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 4.7 |
Doom, Doom, we're all doomed!
Buy gold! Buy guns, dig that bunker. The end is nigh! You've lost what you had of a mind Phat.Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
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jar Member (Idle past 414 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Phat, remember that Jesus was positive that the Final Days would happen while his entourage was still alive.
Paul thought the Final Days would come while he was still alive. They were both wrong and the Peter Epistles are the opening salvo of the Apologetics, folks trying to explain away the fact that that which was prophesied simply turned out to be false prophesy. The task of making up excuses of why no true prophesies have ever come true without human intentionally making stuff up of setting up a play act has continued and supported the whole breed of apologists for many millennia. It's great selling products that have absolutely no product liability or truth in advertising risks. Edited by jar, : fix gramurMy Website: My Website
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