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Phat Member Posts: 18310 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
You guys always say that I should stop listening to Right Wing(nut) News.
But is Tucker Carlson WRONG in his assessment? WTF is wrong with cities spending money on homeless people and causing more harm than good? "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** “…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox “A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.” “The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
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xongsmith Member Posts: 2587 From: massachusetts US Joined: Member Rating: 6.5
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Phat asks:
WTF is wrong with cities spending money on homeless people and causing more harm than good? While Tucker is a smelly turd of a hockey puck, you have 2 parts to your question. Nothing is wrong with spending more money on the homeless. What is wrong is then doing nothing and expecting things to change in less than 20 years of it. Give them real homes, jobs, schools and friendly neighbors and wait 20 years- then they will defend those homes & neighborhoods instead of burning them down. I hope Tucker won't live that long."I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside." - xongsmith, 5.7d
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8536 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.0
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You do know that Tucker Carlson admitted that he lies on his show? Why would you listen to this shill?
Oh, that's right, He's a lying republican nazi and you, Phat, you like you some of that lying republican nazi. It fits your fantasy view of life. He's lying to you, Phat. Again.Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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jar Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Sam Clemens was talking about Tucker Carlson.
Why do you not just listen too but without thinking or checking their lies accept such obvious bullshit? To do more harm than good they would have to burn down more homes than there are homes for the homeless that actually provide shelter. And who said, "Shelter the homeless"? Edited by jar, : No reason given.My Website: My Website
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9146 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3
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YOu have fallen for the rightwing, unchristian, pecking order view of society. You and the rest of the GQP rubes have fallen for, uncritically, the wingnut view that you only have worth if there is someone lower in the pecking order than you.
Meanwhile the ultra wealthy pay almost nothing in taxes. Do you think these people want to be homeless? Why do you think many of them are homeless? I know what you think, you think it is because they are lazy and just want to get drunk or high. F' you. The vast majority have some sort of mental health issue. Unlike Fucker Carlson and his ilk, they cannot afford a treatment center. A lot of homeless are children too. No, he is not right. He is a heartless asshole that just wants to keep taxes lower for himself and his handlers. In the end, all his plan does is shuffle them off somewhere else. Make them someone else's issue to deal with. Unless we go to the next logical level. Imprison them? That will cost magnitudes more. Kill them? That is seemingly his hope. Not by the state, but it seems he would be ok with some vigilanteism toward the homeless. Fucker Carlson is an amoral, vile human POS. It should amaze me that a self-described "good Christian", like yourself, would espouse an idea that is such an anathema to the teachings of your supposed god and leader. It doesn't. Par for the course for you and the amoral fundie movement.What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Phat Member Posts: 18310 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
I merely presented the video...I am not a pawn to right-wing talking points.
The real question is why your side hates it even when they are presented. Liberals are no smarter than conservatives. You really need to stop being so extremist (Like Tucker is) "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** “…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox “A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.” “The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
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Phat Member Posts: 18310 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Nothing is wrong with spending more money on the homeless.
Let me fix that sentence.Nothing is wrong with There is a lot wrong with wasting taxpayer money ineffectively. Get your hands out of my wallet, Dems. Especially you extremists."A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** “…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox “A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.” “The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9146 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3
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I merely presented the video You are such a liar. The good old "I am just asking questions". I told you what was wrong with what he had to say. At least acknowledge it. When you post shit you will get shit in response.
I am not a pawn to right-wing talking points.
Yeah, you are. If you aren't quit posting them.
The real question is why your side hates it even when they are presented.
Why do you use such loaded, deceitful words? There is no hate. There is bullshit and there is reason. RWNJ's use and post bullshit. My side? What does that mean? Progressives? We use reason and evidence(something you seem to not care about as much as your gut).You seem to think we should just accept these talking points from the right with no response, no questioning, no looking at facts and data. You truly are a simple man. Liberals are no smarter than conservatives.
Seemingly, we are. Thanks for the data to come to that reasoned conclusion.
You really need to stop being so extremist
Wanted to not make people suffer and not wanting to shame them is extremist?Way to show off those Christian virtues again. You truly have no shame, do you? What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9146 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3
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You do know how taxes work and how social investments reap rewards for society don't you?
No, all you know are the lies that social spending causes your taxes to go up. Willful ignorance is not pretty Phat. Spending money on the homeless is a net social and financial gain. Shaming the homeless and treating them like lesser people is a loser. Austerity hurts us all.If you want to present actual evidence to counter this go for it. Tucker does not qualify as a source. What Montefiore's 300% ROI from social determinants investments means for the future of other hospitals | Healthcare Finance News Can Homelessness Programs Make Money -- and Should They?What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Phat Member Posts: 18310 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1
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The second link is encouraging.
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** “…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox “A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.” “The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
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Percy Member Posts: 22480 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.8
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Phat writes: Liberals are no smarter than conservatives. Conservatives are much smarter than liberals. They have to be in order to come up with convincing sounding reasons for believing nonsense and lies. --Percy Edited by Percy, : Improve clarity.
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Percy Member Posts: 22480 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.8
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Phat writes: Let me fix that sentence.Nothing is wrong with Congratulations on turning it into ungrammatical nonsense. --Percy
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nwr Member Posts: 6409 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 5.3 |
There is a lot wrong with wasting taxpayer money ineffectively. Get your hands out of my wallet, Dems.
Wasting money ineffectively -- that sounds like the Iraq war and the Afghanistan war. Both were started by Republicans.Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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jar Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Phat, you are as clueless about economics and taxation as you are about Christianity or Jesus message.
How is money spent on the homeless wasted? Tell us in YOUR words, not some propaganda link. How is taxpayer money being wasted? Specifics with evidence or reasoned arguments needed. There is no doubt taxpayer money is being wasted but let's see your specific complaints and find out if they are real or another of your fantasies. AbE: also explain exactly how most of your recent posts are related to the topic since it's clear that they really are significant contributors to the possibility of Trump or some other utter failure tearing the US apart? Edited by jar, : see abeMy Website: My Website
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4413 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.3
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Wasting money ineffectively -- that sounds like the Iraq war and the Afghanistan war. Both were started by Republicans. And pretty much all of those Trillions of wasted dollars went directly in to republican pockets.What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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