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MrIntelligentDesign
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Message 16 of 1197 (891229)
01-21-2022 10:53 PM
Reply to: Message 12 by kjsimons
01-21-2022 9:29 PM


I knew that some of you are not scientists and most of you are supporters of EVOLUTION that has no higher educational background, (for if you had, you could defeat me) that could fight and compete with the new Intelligent Design. PLEASE, STOP the stupidity by posting nonsense here.
IF YOU THINK I am wrong, write your rebuttal in a science article and submit it to here (the link) or in open journal Zenodo. Zenodo is CERN supported platform.
STOP the STUPIDITY, supporters of EVOLUTION. I knew all of your positions and explanations. Fight intellectually and submit your rebuttal to ZENODO and give us your link. Submit your rebuttal in ZENODO and give us the link....ONCE AGAIN, Submit your rebuttal in ZENODO and give us the link... Now, third time I repeat my demand. WE WILL DISCUSS here fully and compare science vs science, model vs model......
BELOW is your opponent... ready to fight and ready to win...
The New Intelligent Design and Its Powerful Correct Scientific Explanations
How will you answer this scientific question in science or religion? “How can you differentiate a created X to an un-created X”? Will you answer, “The created X is complex or irreducibly complex and the un-created X is simple or reducibly complex?”. Or in Biology, a difference or dividing line between an intentionally made biological cell to non-intentional? Will you answer, “intentional is information-coded while the non-intentional is no-information code,”? Or in Cosmology, an intelligently designed Universe to non-intelligently designed Universe?
The New Intelligent Design <id> and Its Powerful Correct Scientific Explanations | Zenodo
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Tanypteryx
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Message 17 of 1197 (891230)
01-21-2022 11:03 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by MrIntelligentDesign
01-21-2022 10:42 PM


Three interesting questions.
I have to say, you really are a wonderful representative for Intelligent Design.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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MrIntelligentDesign
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Message 18 of 1197 (891231)
01-21-2022 11:13 PM
Reply to: Message 17 by Tanypteryx
01-21-2022 11:03 PM


You must apologize to me for your insult. Below was your post to me.
"This isn't being concluded quickly at all. This conclusion is based on more than 200 years of accumulated scientific evidence.
What you posted in the OP isn't science, it is meaningless drivel. LOL"
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In science, you cannot simply insult a scientist by saying with no science model, either you will make your own rebuttal and publish it (Go to ZENODO and publish it, give me the link) or support the it. I will be asking the Admin here to BAN you for insult. YOU CANNOT INSULT real scientist, since I did not insult any scientist even Darwin. If I did, I had my own model and explanations. Or I shut up...
NOW, apologize, or write your rebuttal against me in Zenodo and give me the link, or be banned.
YOU CANNOT INSULT real scientist... YOU SIMPLY SHOULD NOT...
Edited by MrIntelligentDesign, : No reason given.

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Tanypteryx
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Message 19 of 1197 (891232)
01-21-2022 11:25 PM
Reply to: Message 18 by MrIntelligentDesign
01-21-2022 11:13 PM


So now you are saying you are an insult to science?

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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nwr
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Message 20 of 1197 (891233)
01-21-2022 11:29 PM
Reply to: Message 18 by MrIntelligentDesign
01-21-2022 11:13 PM


In science, you cannot simply insult a scientist
You are not a scientist.
Go to ZENODO and publish it, give me the link
If you are here just to advertise ZENODO, then you are a spammer.

Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity

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AZPaul3
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Message 21 of 1197 (891235)
01-22-2022 1:50 AM
Reply to: Message 18 by MrIntelligentDesign
01-21-2022 11:13 PM


Einstein Are Us
In science, you cannot simply insult a scientist by saying with no science model ...
Of course you can! That is the way science works. We insult attention starved Einstein wannabees when they storm in here saying they've discovered The Truth©, the one true way, without presenting any evidence at all and then expect us to praise their superior intellect.
Bullshit. Consider yourself insulted, again ... and again.
You want to say you have something superior to science? Bring it. Tell us your discovery.
Don't send me to your web page. I'm not going to read let alone buy one of your books. You want to press your case here then write it up here. Present your ideas in your post, not some sub-reference.
Then we'll tell you if you're full of shit or not.
I will be asking the Admin here to BAN you for insult. YOU CANNOT INSULT real scientist
Are you a real scientist? I think you're just a wannabee. I insult you again. Have me banned.
I think you may be a religious naboob with a dumb idea stuck in your superstitious head who thinks he is the greatest mind since Newton but can't find anyone to appreciate his true genius so you haunt internet fora looking for validation and applause.
I think you may be a religious wack job just like all the other science wannabee wack jobs that come in here flaming about intelligent design and the power of their brains.
Do you care to counter any of this?
Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.

Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.

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Tangle
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Message 22 of 1197 (891236)
01-22-2022 3:33 AM
Reply to: Message 16 by MrIntelligentDesign
01-21-2022 10:53 PM


MrID writes:
“How can you differentiate a created X to an un-created X”?
Intelligent Design has been investigated, discussed and dismissed by science years ago. Paley's watch argument centuries ago.
If you want to come here and talk about ID, that's fine but it's not a great start linking us to self-published books and papers full of self-congratulatory gobbledegook. You're just going to get ridiculed as yet another deluded religious nutter.
If you want a discussion, make a concise summary of your argument here.
Edited by Tangle, : No reason given.

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"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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vimesey
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Message 23 of 1197 (891237)
01-22-2022 3:39 AM


From Zenodo's policy page:
Eligible depositors: Anyone may register as user of Zenodo.
There are no policies relating to the content of uploaded documents, other than relating to privacy, copyright and ownership. There's nothing related to content verification or validation. It appears to be there simply to provide a safe storage place for data if the Internet goes down.
Our carney hawkster has found something which he realises he can sell to the rubes. "Look !! It's been accepted by CERN !!!" Wrong, my friend - you've just uploaded it to a secure storage facility which CERN runs but doesn't verify the content of.
(PS link to Zenodo's policy page here: Zenodo )
Edited by vimesey, : No reason given.

Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?

  
vimesey
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Message 24 of 1197 (891238)
01-22-2022 3:51 AM


Here's another paper from Zenodo - this one hawking the benefit of crocs !
Einstein must be kicking himself for not having spotted the scientific importance of crocs !

Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?

  
vimesey
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Message 25 of 1197 (891239)
01-22-2022 5:13 AM


This one's an advert for Maui Jim sunglasses:
To be fair, I looked them up, and some of them are pretty cool.

Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?

  
jar
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Message 26 of 1197 (891240)
01-22-2022 7:39 AM
Reply to: Message 10 by MrIntelligentDesign
01-21-2022 9:07 PM


If I am wrong then present the evidence that refutes what I posted.
There is a perfectly adequate existing model, method, mechanism, process and procedure that explains the variety of life that has been found to exist or exist in the past.
There is ZERO evidence of any designer, much less any intelligent designer.
Until there is some evidence of any designer, in particular any evidence the designer has any intelligence, this whole thread is simply an example of the Christian Cult of Willful Ignorance Mental masturbation.
But what the hey; they seem to enjoy it.
Assertions and links with only more unsupported and absurd assertions will not work when presented to thinking adults.
Edited by jar, : the ---> then

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Tanypteryx
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Message 27 of 1197 (891243)
01-22-2022 10:56 AM
Reply to: Message 18 by MrIntelligentDesign
01-21-2022 11:13 PM


NOW, apologize, or write your rebuttal against me in Zenodo and give me the link, or be banned.
YOU CANNOT INSULT real scientist... YOU SIMPLY SHOULD NOT...
Strange, you don't seem to understand, what criticism is, or what an insult is, or what science is.
Intelligent design as an idea of how life or anything else in the Universe developed was shown to be total, stinky bullshit years ago.
You write like an 8 year old, and I expect you will see that as an insult, but it is the truth.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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MrIntelligentDesign
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Message 28 of 1197 (891277)
01-23-2022 2:11 PM
Reply to: Message 27 by Tanypteryx
01-22-2022 10:56 AM


Am I talking religious people or religious freaks here or scientists or science-lovers??
I think supporters of EVOLUTION are becoming religious freaks because they had no power from Darwin to counter me...
Real scientist do not insult. Real scientist study and rebut, if dis-agree...

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jar
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Message 29 of 1197 (891279)
01-23-2022 2:37 PM
Reply to: Message 28 by MrIntelligentDesign
01-23-2022 2:11 PM


Before anyone can rebut your nonsense you need to actually present something.
There is ZERO evidence of any designer, much less any intelligent designer.
Until there is some evidence of any designer, in particular any evidence the designer has any intelligence, this whole thread is simply an example of the Christian Cult of Willful Ignorance Mental masturbation.

My Website: My Website

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Tanypteryx
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Message 30 of 1197 (891281)
01-23-2022 2:47 PM
Reply to: Message 28 by MrIntelligentDesign
01-23-2022 2:11 PM


So now you are claiming to be a religious freak?
Are you writing this in Russian and then using google translate? Nutjobgibberish.com does better translations.
Edited by Tanypteryx, : No reason given.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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