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Message 62 of 90 (891241)
01-22-2022 8:55 AM
Reply to: Message 32 by jar
01-19-2022 11:18 AM


Re: Is Jesus Liberal or Conservative or...
I disagree. You cant be a Christian without knowing Jesus.

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.”
H. Richard Niebuhr, The Kingdom of God in America

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
(1894).


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Phat
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Message 64 of 90 (891248)
01-22-2022 3:40 PM
Reply to: Message 63 by jar
01-22-2022 9:31 AM


Re: Is Jesus Liberal or Conservative or...
jar writes:

What does that even mean Phat?

I will answer your question if you answer mine.

What does it even mean to throw God away? What does it even mean to throw Jesus away?


"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.”
H. Richard Niebuhr, The Kingdom of God in America

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
(1894).


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Phat
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Message 66 of 90 (891250)
01-22-2022 3:59 PM
Reply to: Message 47 by xongsmith
01-20-2022 5:45 AM


Re: spending on homeless
xongsmith,on how to help the homeless writes:

Give them real homes, jobs, schools and friendly neighbors and wait 20 years
- then they will defend those homes & neighborhoods instead of burning them down.

You liberals are so clueless! I suppose that you think the money to give away housing will come from the state. Thus, taxes will need to be higher so your secular liberal "church" can bring more voters into the Democratic ranks so that your hold on power (your most important thing) will continue.

Wake up. The US is overextended already. Yes, help them some, but without a new outlook on life and therapy, they will simply use the government. (well to be honest, many won't and it will help them but some of them will waste the taxpayers dollars.)

Look, I'm no fan of Tucker. He is indeed a turd. I'm also no fan of spending everyone's money and lulling them into a false sense that what they are doing is working. We need a more balanced government. Extreme liberalism is as bad or worse than extreme conservatism. If there is such an animal as an antichrist (The next Hitler) He/She will most likely be a rabid liberal. The jews will love him until he shows his true colors. And finally, I also blame the liberal side for instituting and defending fiat money. You guys would probably scoff at Apologetic explanations and actually support humans mandatorily backing the money. Full control for the leaders. Disguised as empathy and universal all-inclusive secular love.

*Wake Up From Your Dream!*


"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.”
H. Richard Niebuhr, The Kingdom of God in America

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
(1894).


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Phat
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Message 67 of 90 (891251)
01-22-2022 4:01 PM
Reply to: Message 65 by dwise1
01-22-2022 3:57 PM


Re: Is Jesus Liberal or Conservative or...
All Deities are not alike. There is only one. As an atheist/secular humanist, you likely think that we all collectively make up our God by trying to be good and noble to each other. But I must run off to work...im spouting extremist nonsense. Back later

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.”
H. Richard Niebuhr, The Kingdom of God in America

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
(1894).


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Phat
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Message 70 of 90 (891254)
01-22-2022 4:09 PM
Reply to: Message 69 by Tangle
01-22-2022 4:06 PM


Re: Is Jesus Liberal or Conservative or...
because honestly I'm not feeling it. The only hope for liberals is to accept a higher power. Same for conservatives. And no, it is not just a story.

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.”
H. Richard Niebuhr, The Kingdom of God in America

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
(1894).


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Phat
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Message 76 of 90 (891263)
01-23-2022 1:46 AM
Reply to: Message 73 by dwise1
01-22-2022 4:51 PM


A few comments and observations for PaulK and dwise1.
You tell some good stories! I appreciate what you think. I know that you usually get me thinking as well. I will try and comment tomorrow...I'm soo tired.

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.”
H. Richard Niebuhr, The Kingdom of God in America

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
(1894).


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Phat
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From: Denver,Colorado USA
Joined: 12-30-2003
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Message 88 of 90 (891301)
01-24-2022 11:52 AM
Reply to: Message 87 by ringo
01-24-2022 11:09 AM


Re: spending on homeless
ringo writes:

Pull the poor up to where THEY can pay taxes. That won't increase your taxes.

I dont pay many taxes yet. I no longer get refunds, however. If you pull the poor up to where they pay taxes, you are pulling them past me. Do you honestly think that you can make the top 10% fund your social programs and green new deals? You won't get the money from them. And that leaves the rest of us working hard and being forced by the government to share what little we have.
ringo writes:

How can you claim to "know" Jesus when you argue against everything He said?

This is obviously a hollow assertion. You *know* that Jesus does not exist but you use his message to justify your party's agenda. I don't ignore what Jesus told me to do. I ignore what the liberal agenda tries to make me do. The whole issue is power. You guys simply don't nor never will have the power to make anyone pay anything.
ringo writes:

"The faith" is faith in the message.

. It is unless the "message" has been hijacked into some sort of universal brotherhooded campaign solgan.

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.”
H. Richard Niebuhr, The Kingdom of God in America

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
(1894).


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