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Author Topic:   Belief Versus The Scientific Method
drlove
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Message 496 of 513 (891358)
01-26-2022 6:45 PM
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01-26-2022 3:56 PM


Re: Any Redeeming Value?
It also brought a weaponized space and soon a weaponized moon probably also. If you want to take credit you also take blame.

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drlove
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Message 497 of 513 (891359)
01-26-2022 6:46 PM
Reply to: Message 481 by AZPaul3
01-25-2022 4:06 PM


pot meet kettle
I could say the same about CNN and mainstream media.

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drlove
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Message 498 of 513 (891360)
01-26-2022 6:49 PM
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01-25-2022 5:25 PM


Re: Any Redeeming Value?
The problem is that many of us do not believe a word people like fauci or Biden say. Not a word. Same with mainstream propaganda media. I don't even look at that anymore. It all boils down to who and what we choose to believe. If there were science that settled anything, we would have seen it by now.

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drlove
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Message 499 of 513 (891361)
01-26-2022 6:52 PM
Reply to: Message 489 by jar
01-26-2022 1:42 PM


Re: Any Redeeming Value?
Like you accept yecs,born again Christians and the bible here?

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drlove
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Message 500 of 513 (891362)
01-26-2022 6:56 PM
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01-26-2022 7:55 AM


Re: Any Redeeming Value?
Show an example where the US is divorced from evidence based reasoning?

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Message 501 of 513 (891363)
01-26-2022 7:52 PM
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01-26-2022 6:44 PM


Re: Any Redeeming Value?
The age of the earth is probably somewhere close to the one Usher calculated, give or take a few hundred years.

Yep, you're a YEC whack-job. Exact same style trolling. We can recognize that stench from a mile away.

Slither back under your rock.


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jar
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Message 502 of 513 (891364)
01-26-2022 7:59 PM
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01-26-2022 6:56 PM


Re: Any Redeeming Value?
You are a prime example.

You are classic Christian Cult of Willful Ignorance and Deceit.

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Message 503 of 513 (891365)
01-26-2022 8:45 PM
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01-26-2022 6:45 PM


Re: Any Redeeming Value?
It also brought a weaponized space and soon a weaponized moon probably also.

And when our forces are clearly in control the treatment of christians in the Colosseum will look tame by comparison.

I could say the same about CNN and mainstream media

And your bible.


Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.

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Message 504 of 513 (891366)
01-26-2022 11:59 PM
Reply to: Message 498 by drlove
01-26-2022 6:49 PM


Re: Any Redeeming Value?
The problem is that many of us do not believe a word people like fauci or Biden say. Not a word.

that's cause you're idiots.

It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

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Tanypteryx
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Message 505 of 513 (891367)
01-27-2022 1:23 AM
Reply to: Message 501 by dwise1
01-26-2022 7:52 PM


Re: Any Redeeming Value?
Yep, you're a YEC whack-job. Exact same style trolling. We can recognize that stench from a mile away.

Putin loves puppets like him.


What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Tangle
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Message 506 of 513 (891368)
01-27-2022 3:06 AM
Reply to: Message 495 by drlove
01-26-2022 6:44 PM


Re: Any Redeeming Value?
drlove writes:

The age of the earth is probably somewhere close to the one Usher calculated

So that would be Sunday, 23rd October, 4004 BC. making it 6,026 years old this year. I've put the date in my diary and I'll send a card.

Do you own guns?

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Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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vimesey
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Message 507 of 513 (891369)
01-27-2022 3:34 AM
Reply to: Message 506 by Tangle
01-27-2022 3:06 AM


Re: Any Redeeming Value?
Nothing like someone professing to be Christian and collecting asault rifles (and indeed putting them on their family's Christmas card - a time celebrating their Christ's birthday).

I do struggle to remember the bit in the Bible where Jesus told people to go out and arm themselves. Can anyone help with that ?

I do recall him saying this in Matthew ch 5: "You have heard that it was said, "An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth." But I say to you, Do not resist the one who is evil. But if anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also." But maybe he retracted that somewhere ?

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Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?

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Phat
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Message 508 of 513 (891370)
01-27-2022 7:26 AM
Reply to: Message 503 by AZPaul3
01-26-2022 8:45 PM


Re: Any Redeeming Value?

Silly AZ!


"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
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“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.”
H. Richard Niebuhr, The Kingdom of God in America

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
(1894).


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Theodoric
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Message 509 of 513 (891377)
01-27-2022 11:46 AM
Reply to: Message 495 by drlove
01-26-2022 6:44 PM


Sorry for feeding the troll
After your latest bat shit crazy YEC post, I have to ask a couple of questions. If you truly were ever an M.D., when and where were you last licensed?
How, as an M.D., would you explain something like antibiotic-resistant infections?

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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jar
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Message 510 of 513 (891378)
01-27-2022 12:39 PM
Reply to: Message 509 by Theodoric
01-27-2022 11:46 AM


Re: Sorry for feeding the troll
Silly Rabbi.

Don't you remember, Intelligent Design. The virus learns to dislike the antibiotics and tells all its family to avoid them.


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