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MrIntelligentDesign
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Message 31 of 1197 (891282)
01-23-2022 2:56 PM
Reply to: Message 29 by jar
01-23-2022 2:37 PM


Where did you get that CONCLUSIONS from yours? Do you have any link to even show the definition of intelligence to non-intelligence, before u could talk to intelligent designer?? Give me the link...if not SHUT UP..

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Tangle
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Message 32 of 1197 (891283)
01-23-2022 3:01 PM
Reply to: Message 28 by MrIntelligentDesign
01-23-2022 2:11 PM


MrID writes:
Am I talking religious people or religious freaks here or scientists or science-lovers??
I think supporters of EVOLUTION are becoming religious freaks because they had no power from Darwin to counter me...
Real scientist do not insult. Real scientist study and rebut, if dis-agree...
Real science deals with observation and evidence. Show us something that was intelligently designed.
Edited by Tangle, : No reason given.

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Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
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jar
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Message 33 of 1197 (891285)
01-23-2022 3:24 PM
Reply to: Message 31 by MrIntelligentDesign
01-23-2022 2:56 PM


Are you trying to intentionally appear as stupid as your posts indicate?
Before anyone can rebut your nonsense you need to actually present something.
There is ZERO evidence of any designer, much less any intelligent designer.
Until there is some evidence of any designer, in particular any evidence the designer has any intelligence, this whole thread is simply an example of the Christian Cult of Willful Ignorance Mental masturbation.
You are the one claiming that some designer exists and that the designer is intelligent.
It is up to you to present the evidence to support your position.
Bring the evidence that there is some designer and that the designer is intelligent and present that evidence here.
Do you even know what evidence would be or mean?

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AZPaul3
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Message 34 of 1197 (891287)
01-23-2022 8:06 PM
Reply to: Message 31 by MrIntelligentDesign
01-23-2022 2:56 PM


How can you differentiate a created X to an un-created X
Your questions from the OP were answered in Message 4.
Are you going to answer mine?
How do you differentiate a created X from an natural X?

Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.

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MrIntelligentDesign
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Message 35 of 1197 (891290)
01-24-2022 3:45 AM
Reply to: Message 34 by AZPaul3
01-23-2022 8:06 PM


I've already answered that in my link...and more..

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Tangle
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Message 36 of 1197 (891291)
01-24-2022 4:52 AM
Reply to: Message 35 by MrIntelligentDesign
01-24-2022 3:45 AM


MrID writes:
I've already answered that in my link...and more..
We don't argue by link here.
Present your evidence. Show us something intelligently designed. It would be great if you could also show us the designer too but one step at a time.

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"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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AZPaul3
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Message 37 of 1197 (891292)
01-24-2022 6:45 AM
Reply to: Message 35 by MrIntelligentDesign
01-24-2022 3:45 AM


I'm not going to read your self-serving narcissistic tome.
Present your argument here within the post.
How do YOU tell a natural object from a manufactured one? What criteria do you use? I already stated mine in Message 4.
Write it up and bring it here in a forum message, not in some off-site opus.
Failure to do so will show your lack of evidence for your proposal.
Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.

Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.

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Message 38 of 1197 (891293)
01-24-2022 9:52 AM
Reply to: Message 35 by MrIntelligentDesign
01-24-2022 3:45 AM


I've already answered that in my link...and more..
No you didn't. your link is a great steaming pile of bullshit and more!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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MrIntelligentDesign
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Message 39 of 1197 (891402)
01-29-2022 4:15 AM
Reply to: Message 38 by Tanypteryx
01-24-2022 9:52 AM


WHAT???? Have you lost your mind?

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Message 40 of 1197 (891403)
01-29-2022 4:44 AM
Reply to: Message 39 by MrIntelligentDesign
01-29-2022 4:15 AM


quote:
WHAT???? Have you lost your mind?
Having read some of your material, I think you are in great need of psychiatric help.

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Tanypteryx
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Message 41 of 1197 (891405)
01-29-2022 9:30 AM
Reply to: Message 39 by MrIntelligentDesign
01-29-2022 4:15 AM


WHAT???? Have you lost your mind?
Nope!!!!! I know exactly where it is.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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AZPaul3
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Message 42 of 1197 (891409)
01-29-2022 1:47 PM
Reply to: Message 39 by MrIntelligentDesign
01-29-2022 4:15 AM


How to tell?
So, again, MrID, how do YOU tell a natural object from a manufactured one? What criteria do you use?

Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.

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Sarah Bellum
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Message 43 of 1197 (891414)
01-29-2022 3:10 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by MrIntelligentDesign
01-19-2022 9:31 PM


What it comes down to is did the various generations of life over the past few billions of years produce offspring by the usual birth (or hatching or spawning or whatever bacteria do to split from one cell into two descendants) or was there some miraculous instance of creation every time a slightly different creature (or plant, etc.) grew up to walk (or crawl, swim, etc.) on our planet?

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MrIntelligentDesign
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Message 44 of 1197 (891427)
01-30-2022 6:20 PM
Reply to: Message 42 by AZPaul3
01-29-2022 1:47 PM


Re: How to tell?
quote:
So, again, MrID, how do YOU tell a natural object from a manufactured one? What criteria do you use?
That is a very good question!!! Simple and yet very strong!!! That is the very FIRST question in talking about the origin of everything, even the origin of species! Darwin and all of evolution supporters should first answer that before they conclude EVOLUTION!!!
Well, before I answer, how EVOLUTION answer that question? You know, EVOLUTION is famous, I am not, evolution is being used in almost all schools, mine is not yet, Evolution receive money and grants, I am not... then, let the MAJOR science like Evolution answer that FIRST...
Well, if you read my science books, you could probably know that answer from me... but let us compare for educational purposes...and see if EVOLUTION has the best scientific explanation...

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MrIntelligentDesign
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Message 45 of 1197 (891428)
01-30-2022 6:23 PM
Reply to: Message 43 by Sarah Bellum
01-29-2022 3:10 PM


Generations over life (time), or say change over time, is always controlled for if not, all living organisms will die. Which means, they are not evolving...as in origin of species and they are not evolving, as in change of species...
All living organisms are just interrelating (intelligently relating) for if not, they will die.

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