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jar
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Message 61 of 1197 (891446)
01-30-2022 9:33 PM
Reply to: Message 60 by Tanypteryx
01-30-2022 9:13 PM


Re: How to tell?
MrIntelligentDesign is simply the result of the Christian Cult of Willful Ignorance nearly century of teaching the cult members how to NOT think.
Like almost all of the Christians in the US he is ignorant of everything including the basics like what the Bible is or what Jesy=us message was or what evidence is or how to discriminate between reality and fantasy.
He should be pitied.

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Tanypteryx
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Message 62 of 1197 (891448)
01-30-2022 9:39 PM
Reply to: Message 61 by jar
01-30-2022 9:33 PM


Re: How to tell?
Like almost all of the Christians in the US he is ignorant of everything including the basics like what the Bible is or what Jesy=us message was or what evidence is or how to discriminate between reality and fantasy.
Yeah, but don't spoil the surprise!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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nwr
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Message 63 of 1197 (891450)
01-30-2022 9:43 PM
Reply to: Message 59 by MrIntelligentDesign
01-30-2022 9:12 PM


Re: How to tell?
I discussed already in my OP in the link.
It is one of the rules of this site, that we debate people -- we do not debate links.
What's at your link is mostly bare assertions and nonsense.

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MrIntelligentDesign
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Message 64 of 1197 (891451)
01-31-2022 12:51 AM
Reply to: Message 63 by nwr
01-30-2022 9:43 PM


Re: How to tell?
Do you want me to copy and paste for you the whole article? Or just go there and read and come here for more?

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MrIntelligentDesign
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Message 65 of 1197 (891452)
01-31-2022 12:53 AM
Reply to: Message 60 by Tanypteryx
01-30-2022 9:13 PM


Re: How to tell?
Because you did not read my links! Do you want me to copy and paste for you? I think we can shorten our discussion if read the link first... try this one:
ALL ABOUT BIBLICAL KINDS (AronRa's Phylogeny Challenge Accepted) | Zenodo

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dwise1
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Message 66 of 1197 (891453)
01-31-2022 1:27 AM
Reply to: Message 65 by MrIntelligentDesign
01-31-2022 12:53 AM


Re: How to tell?
Because you did not read my links!
Nobody can understand your links because they're gibberish! Far worse gibberish than what you've been posting on this forum.
Besides not wanting to waste our time and effort to try to make sense out of nonsense, it is the policy here to write the point that you're trying to make in the message rather then send us off on a wild goose chase.
Of course, if even you do not understand your gibberish enough to be able to write a concise and comprehensible summary of it, then that pretty much settles that.
Do you want me to copy and paste for you?
Copy-and-pasted gibberish will still be gibberish. Like warmed-over moose-turd pie.

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Tangle
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Message 67 of 1197 (891455)
01-31-2022 2:44 AM
Reply to: Message 44 by MrIntelligentDesign
01-30-2022 6:20 PM


Re: How to tell?
MrID writes:
That is a very good question!!!
And it's one you’ve been asked in various forms by all of us because it's the basis of the design argument. So what is your answer?
Edited by Tangle, : No reason given.

Edited by Tangle, : No reason given.


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Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
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Message 68 of 1197 (891457)
01-31-2022 7:14 AM
Reply to: Message 65 by MrIntelligentDesign
01-31-2022 12:53 AM


Re: How to tell?
Because you did not read my links! Do you want me to copy and paste for you?
No, just summarize your argument in your own words here in the text. No lengthy cut & paste necessary.
So, again, MrID, how do YOU tell a natural object from a manufactured one? What criteria do you use?
Surely you can answer the simple question. I answered back in Message 4.
quote:
I would look at its structure and function and determine from experience with other forms whether it was naturally formed or not. Then we will need about a dozen or so other recognized and qualified scientists to make an independent set of observations. The consensus will make the tentative conclusion.
And I didn't have to cut and paste complete books to explain it.
So, again, MrID, how do YOU tell a natural object from a manufactured one? What criteria do you use?
Start easy. What is the first trait you would look to?
Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.

Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.

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nwr
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Message 69 of 1197 (891462)
01-31-2022 8:21 AM
Reply to: Message 64 by MrIntelligentDesign
01-31-2022 12:51 AM


Re: How to tell?
Do you want me to copy and paste for you the whole article?
No.
I want to see actual reasoning and supportive evidence. You have provided neither, probably because do not have a well worked out idea.

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ringo
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Message 70 of 1197 (891472)
01-31-2022 11:20 AM
Reply to: Message 59 by MrIntelligentDesign
01-30-2022 9:12 PM


Re: How to tell?
MrIntelligentDesign writes:
... let us solve the problem between manufactured to non-manufactured. If I cannot explain, I support Evolution and you. I you cannot, you support me,
False dichotomy --> non sequitur.

"I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!"
-- Lucky Ned Pepper

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Tanypteryx
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Message 71 of 1197 (891474)
01-31-2022 12:08 PM
Reply to: Message 65 by MrIntelligentDesign
01-31-2022 12:53 AM


Re: How to tell?
MrStupidDesign writes:
Because you did not read my links! Do you want me to copy and paste for you? I think we can shorten our discussion if read the link first...
I DID read your links.
There is nothing in your links that answers any of the questions asked here. NOTHING!
You have made it completely clear, in everything you wrote, that you cannot even explain the most basic concept implied by the new intelligent design.
Behe and Meyer and the other frauds who who came up with the first intelligent design scam would laugh your pathetic excuse for an ID replacement right out of the room. At least, they knew it was a scam, you don't have a clue.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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MrIntelligentDesign
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Message 72 of 1197 (891504)
02-01-2022 4:26 AM
Reply to: Message 71 by Tanypteryx
01-31-2022 12:08 PM


Re: How to tell?
Thank you, guys. For probably two weeks or more, I will never be able to answer all of your posts to me. I will be submitting to Nature Journal a science article titled, "Scientific Falsification of the Theory of Evolution (ToE) and Its Replacement". If Nature rejected me, the article will end up in Zenodo, and I will be sharing you again the link... if you want. But in break time, I will be probably reading all your comments. Guys, I am very serious in science for I think I am right.

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Message 73 of 1197 (891505)
02-01-2022 4:35 AM
Reply to: Message 72 by MrIntelligentDesign
02-01-2022 4:26 AM


Re: How to tell?
Nature does not accept the ramblings of the mentally ill.
Please get psychiatric help.
Edited by PaulK, : No reason given.

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Tangle
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Message 74 of 1197 (891506)
02-01-2022 4:40 AM
Reply to: Message 72 by MrIntelligentDesign
02-01-2022 4:26 AM


Re: How to tell?
MrID writes:
hank you, guys. For probably two weeks or more, I will never be able to answer all of your posts to me.
You don't need to answer all of us because we've all asked you the same question. If you can't tell us how you know something is designed or not you haven't even started.
I will be submitting to Nature Journal a science article titled, "Scientific Falsification of the Theory of Evolution (ToE) and Its Replacement". If Nature rejected me, the article will end up in Zenodo, and I will be sharing you again the link... if you want. But in break time, I will be probably reading all your comments. Guys,
Nature will reject you by return of post.
I am very serious in science for I think I am right.
You may be serious, but what you are doing is not science.

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 75 of 1197 (891508)
02-01-2022 7:36 AM
Reply to: Message 72 by MrIntelligentDesign
02-01-2022 4:26 AM


Re: How to tell?
quote:
Dear Mr. ID,
We have received your submission titled Scientific Falsification of the Theory of Evolution (ToE) and Its Replacement.
After a quick perusal your submission has been deemed the ravings of a lunatic mind with no relation to reality and has been added to the trash pile to be destroyed. It’s crap.
Furthermore, we advise you seek psychological treatment, quickly.
This journal receives dozens of papers from crazy people touting all manner of stupidity. Do not contact us again. If you do contact this journal again we will report your harassment to the appropriate civil authorities.
Editor,
Nature

Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.

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