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Author Topic:   Is the “Fine-Tuned Universe” an Illusion?
Tangle
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Message 23 of 61 (891828)
02-12-2022 4:09 PM
Reply to: Message 20 by Son Goku
02-12-2022 1:25 PM


Re: Fine-Tuned
Son Goku writes:
I don't know what to make of it, it's a well known cosmology problem called the "naturalness" problem.
It's great to hear this stuff from someone who isn't stark staring bonkers.
As a simple ignorant in all this, it seems obvious to me that, just like my car, the universe won't work unless everything is spot on. So how did it get that way? Hence all the fuss about watches and so on.
At this point people have injected the causeless cause and called it god, made up their own version and got on their knees. Job done, no need to go any further.
I think my ignorance and yours are essentially equal. I have never understood why we expect to understand this. What you understand is beyond my comprehension but your understanding is probably only a centimetre ahead of mine compared to the light years it seems we have yet to go.
I was going to say something profound at this point, but for the moment it escapes me. I'll have to make do with 'shit happened'.

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 46 of 61 (891857)
02-14-2022 3:58 PM
Reply to: Message 39 by jar
02-14-2022 8:40 AM


Re: Full justification for EvC's existence.
jar writes:
The last few days posts in this thread IMHO are full and complete justification for EvC's existence.
The thread has been a classic example of Evolution in action.
You may well say that, I haven't a clue what old Gokkie is saying, but I defend his right to confuse the fuck out of me.

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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