Coffee House Musings on Creationist Topic Proposals

dwise1 writes: everybody knows males are just genetic defects of the X chromosome. One of the legs of the X broke off and became a Y.

sorry, Jar, but I have to::::Jar writes: "Hey, he's depraved on account of being deprived! Gee, Officer Krupke, you're really a square -[DIESEL (as Judge), spoken]
Hear ye, hear ye! In the opinion on this court, this child is depraved on account he ain't had a normal home[RIFF, spoken]
Hey, I'm depraved on account I'm deprived[DIESEL, spoken]
So take him to a headshrinker[RIFF]
My father is a bastard
My ma's an S.O.B
My grandpa's always plastered
My grandma pushes tea
My sister wears a mustache
My brother wears a dress
Goodness gracious, that's why I'm a mess!

Tangle closes each post with i have been waiting for the update addition, "I am Ukrainian."just wondering when...

thanks jar!

and now i see that Tangle went for plain English.was yours Russian or Ukrainian? i guess i could check, but, ah well...

also he commits the begging the question fallacy here: if the individual biological cell is intelligent, yes, that would falsify TOE. but he hasn't established that it is.intellen doesn't mean anything on dictionary.com, so i took it as a likely typo.intellen did get some hits on google, though. but they all kinda still look like he made a typo.just being generous here.

marc9k writes, in part: well, that is a helluva lot better than the alternative, wouldn't you say?

Percy writes, in part: Wait, wait, wait!Just to pick a minor nit, "believes" is the wrong word. Science accepts as abundantly evidenced that the theory of evolution is the best explanation we have for the diversity of life on earth......given that Dredge is dredging around definitions of words like "know".But do carry on, good show!

Dredge dogs on with: the same way a baseball fielder can catch a fly ball hit towards him. you know that they cannot model exactly how, but we can know how good enough to catch it.have you ever heard a bunch of guys up on stage trying to get in tune? at some point one will say "Okay, that's good enough for folksinging!"tentatively. holding the place for the way it happens until something better comes along. Einstein did not disprove Newton - he improved the Theory. a replacement theory has to completely describe what the former theory has already done, plus explain a little bit more.right now there is very little left to explain about how evolution works.

Edited by xongsmith, : very little left, not very left

don't forget Neil Degrasse-Tyson's first appearance reporting for Jury Duty!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVTzuIe-5AU

Edited by xongsmith, .

Phat includes "Essentially yada` means: (1) to know by observing and reflecting (thinking), and (2) to know by experiencing."I did not know that! This throws the whole Seinfeld "yada yada yada" episodes into a sharper focus.

dredge writes: if you allow for a neutral God to make random changes to the DNA molecules by having them exist in an atomic world of random fluctuations at the quantum level and then dispassionately watching the results without interfering, then you have close to the Deist god and the difference is even less.your whining about lack of detail in the whale pelvis is like complaining about rolling a 5 instead of a 6 on a fair die. Why a 5? no reason, other than it's one of six possible results.we don't know what random fluctuations occurred instead of other possibilities, but we have the general idea that there was no supernatural explanation needed. Why add one unless you want to fool people into giving you money?

Dredge asks: You have no idea how long evolution has been making it little changes, do you? BILLIONS of YEARS is a very, very long time.not being a professional herpetologist myself, i'd imagine it would be something like this:start with a little groove on the inside of a tooth, then some are born with deeper grooves that are favored in that current environment. they survive at a more frequent rate and eventually are the major variant. then the deeper groove begins to fold together and the saliva has also been changing ever so slightly to venomous in this surviving population. some early venoms may have been self-destructive, others to weak to paralize a victim. some missed the teeth path and didn't work as they do today. eventually some venom systems were just right. you have BILLIONS and BILLIONS of years of generations of mutations leading to trials and errors. eventually you get rattlesnakes. or cobras. or coral snakes. or sea snakes (ahah! turn 15 in this current Xong game I'm playing now has Blue foisting a 27-legged Sea Snake upon Red, who has only one place it fits on the board and it's only for a net 4 points, leaving him only one point ahead of Blue who now gets a piece worth 4-5...but Red finds a Sea Snake of his own and now trails by 3 again - oh, nevermind). pressure is the wrong word. "survival advantage" may be more accurate. just as a photosensitive dip in its head gave the primitive-eye creature an advantage living in the land of the blind, the venomous fangs gave an advantage in the life encounters over food and real-time battles of life & death.but this is abundantly obvious to me.why isn't it obvious to you?
what is blocking your brain from seeing this?

p.s. - Red won 25-24 to tie the measured series 274 wins apiece!

Dredge spouts: There it is folks! his stupidity unchained!he describes UCD/genetic defects resulting in mammals to be different from mollusks and then claims it has nothing to do with UCD! WOW what happened to you that your brain cannot see this?