Anti-theist

Phat, I didn't say that.

Raph is free to discuss with whomever comes within arms reach.As for my video of Harris I gave my very short set of points and have been awaiting feedback.I'd like to hear what Raph has to say on the subject. I gather he hasn't a lot of time to come out and play so I'd like to see what he says.If someone wants something more specific from me they can ask.

Well, Phat, since you asked ...... here is another supernatural myth brought down by reality.Giant Space Rock Blast Wiped Out Ancient City With 1,000 Times Hiroshima's Ferocity : ScienceAlertAbout 3600 yrs ago a big honking space rock killed an ancient city. Two, actually. Late bronze age cities. That's killing two bronze with one stone.Tall el-Hammam was instantly incinerated. Then, to the west...

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... winds from the blast hit the biblical city of Jericho. Jericho's walls came tumbling down and the city burned to the ground.

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This is no big surprize. Anyone considering where the Jericho myth originated would have seen this as an obvious first choice but it's nice to have confirmation.Point being, the bible loses again.Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.

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A couple of things for your consideration, Phat.First, you know the concept in science of predictability, yes? If a hypothesis makes a prediction that does not occur then that hypothesis is wrong and must be discarded. This is one major lynchpin in science. Misterdeity, your favorite, has a recent vid where he presented the fact that the bible has its own version of the predictability standard.

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Deut 18-22 If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the Lord does not take place or come true, that is a message the Lord has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously, so do not be alarmed.

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In other words if the prophet’s prophesy does not happen then the prophet is false and speaks not for god.So when a prophet, a messiah, says that the current generation will see the end of times and neither it nor the next 100 generations see such, then that prophet, that messiah, is false and had no connection to god. If you are a true believer in messianic prophesy then unfulfilled prophesy is not of god. When the prophets said a man to be born in Jerusalem who will conquer the Assyrians is the messiah then any man born in Jerusalem who does not conquer the Assyrians cannot be the messiah. And when a prophet tells his followers they will do even greater works than he, raising the dead, healing the sick, curing the blind and walking on water, and yet fails to produce a single follower who can do such things let alone greater things, that prophet is false, has no connection to god and cannot be the messiah.By your own biblical rules your jesus cannot be a prophet in good standing with god.Second item of curiosity. You know about cats, yes? Fuzzy, furry little aminals that purr and scratch, huggle and bite. Moose's favorite mistletoe target. The same ones that made their antics known and noted throughout all of human history in art, lore, myth and legend. A most ubiquitous pet. Arguably one of the top two in all humanity, in every culture all around the world, immortalized in stone, and canvas. Motivation for antibiotic ointment and internet memes. Acknowledged, recognised in every human scene through all of time.Except in the bible.As I understand things there is not one mention of any domesticated feline family member in any household, palace, temple or manger anywhere in either the old or new book. No fluff ball nestled across the king's lap as he sat upon his throne. Why?Dogs made it into the bible. Big fish and bears and cows and unicorns and goats and sheep and sea monsters and horses with their emissions, they all made it.Was god so pissed at his creation of cats he was trying to erase them from history? I guess they had to sneak onto the ark. Can you imagine what the cat had to knock off god’s desk to get that kind of treatment?Edited by AZPaul3, : Link to Misterdeity

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You are the giver. You are the giver of substance and force. Without your bounty, without your power, nothing could exist. We give notice to your grandeur and your absolute rule over all things. We are your children, born of your very nature. By your determinant grace we have temporary life and with that life we have found love and despair, joy and sorrow, great good and great evil. We lay helpless before you yet beseech no action from you and pay no homage to you for we know your ways are the ways of all of nature and will be as they must be. We can only stand in awe of your presence and of your power and in this we acknowledge the awareness, the knowledge and the fleeting life you have given to us. Amen.Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.

You may think so but actually it is an atheist sharing an existential moment with the universe. As long as I don't sacrifice any goats in my office then such moments are allowed.

What makes you think I've changed? Just because in my old dodderage and depression I talk to things?If my op had been soliloquy instead of labeled as prayer would that make any difference in your reaction?Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.

Gush praise? Where in my monologue do you see praise ... for anything? And what you consider gush might be interpreted as simple acknowledgement, as in giving notice to the universe's grandeur and its absolute rule over all things.Is that pantheist? From recent posts with Son Goku my beliefs are many world-ish which means more than one universe, in fact an infinity of universes. So I suppose pantheist might apply. There certainly are enough to qualify. And, yeah, I don't want to start any kind of schism so just consider my prayer to cover all of them.

Well, now, for a nominal fee, I go intervene with the Holy See Himself and have your sanctity restored.Anyone interested in details can message me.

Such things are kept with the documentation of the original baptismal ceremony. Depending upon the date of the ceremony your quickly waning sanctity could be stored in one of a number of the pope's vast warehouses around the world. Part of my service is to locate your weakening sanctity, get it and the documentation to Rome and have the Holy Father update the seal on the document with his signet ring. Then I return the documents, with sanctity renewed, to the appropriate archive. You pay the fee, I'll see to it it's yours. Absolute guaranteed. Cross my heart. Left to right, of course.

Hey Raph. Welcome back. How go the studies? You convert to secular humanism yet?

Glad to hear things are getting along for you. EvC is being a bit slow right now. Take a look around. Maybe you can add some wisdom.

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He didn't do it.

Friday Cephalopod: Death comes to us all

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The Kraken is dead!

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But fear not, for he shall rise again on the third day, and lo, the rampaging will be awesome.

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He is risen. He is risen indeed.Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.