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PaulK Member Posts: 17825 Joined: Member Rating: 2.2
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quote: Funny how you can’t find even one then.
quote: That description would be the direct quote from the 538 article. So it isn’t mine, is it?
quote: So, not a lie then. And the point about the polls is still correct.
quote: Since I didn’t say that I can hardly have lied.
quote: I didn’t say that either. Let’s also note that according to the 538 article they supported Putin’s handling of the situation in the Ukraine - before the invasion, when talks were going on, and the Russians were falsely claiming to have pulled forces back from the border. That’s not the same as general support for Putin. And it’s certainly not the same as Carlson’s support for Putin - as described in the 538 article. Perhaps you would like to read what it says? It IS your source - even if you refused to provide a link to it (I wonder why? Don’t you want people to read beyond the title?)
quote: Funny how you didn’t provide any examples of me doing that, then. Especially when I asked for examples. I very rarely - if ever - speak about the average Republican voter. So it would be very hard for me to confuse people about where THEY stand. On the other hand you try to claim that 20% of Democratic voters had similar views to those expressed by Tucker Carlson. Perhaps you would like to support that? Or maybe you’re the one trying to “confuse everyone with lies about where certain Americans stand”.
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LamarkNewAge Member Posts: 2312 Joined: |
The poll was taken February 19-21 by Morning Consult/Politico.
Biden, on Feb 18 said he was "convinced" Russia would invade Kyiv with A MILITARY FORCE! 20% of Democrats then said that they at least somewhat agree with how Putin was handling the conflict with Ukraine. Only 10% of Republicans at least somewhat agreed that Putin was handling the conflict. These are facts. (Not that "facts" are anything you have a concept of)
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LamarkNewAge Member Posts: 2312 Joined: |
Poll question came after Biden said he was "convinced" of military invasion.
"...approve or disapprove of how the gollowing are handling the conflict between Rusdia and Ukraine" Then Putin was one of the following. 20% of Democrats approved of his handling. Edited by LamarkNewAge, : No reason given.
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Phat Member Posts: 18298 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
What do you know about the big "African giants" - South Africa and Nigeria? Im learning from different sources.
What do the leaders feel? What do the people feel?
I listened to this 2012 commentary: Nigerian Crossroads by the BBC. quote:If Doyle has captured an accurate assessment, the government is torn by violence as its own poorer people have turned to theft to siphon off state and corporate profits. The claim is that gangs steal ten Olympic swimming pools' worth of oil every day! I see why you are sensitive about global racism. My only comment on that is that the racial struggle is really an economic struggle. Consider the pirates of Somalia. I see no easy solutions in today's world. This whole claptrap about a war on "white people" is not only counter-racist but unrealistic. One more observation: The African Giants are not solidly in the pro-U.S. Camp. They also work with BRIC to a degree. Their biggest problem is domestic social unrest. Why must the poor attack businesses? (Same problem America is having...which is growing.)"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** “…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox “A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.” “The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
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PaulK Member Posts: 17825 Joined: Member Rating: 2.2 |
quote: So Biden got that right. Good for him. And certainly better than Trump’s comments - made after the invasion began - quoted in the article.
quote: So, presumably they disagreed with Biden. If you actually cared about the facts you would at least deal with that possibility.
quote: And you’ll note that I am not disputing any facts.
quote: Then why am I not disputing any facts?
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8527 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.2
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So are you ignorant or lying? No. It's true, I'm better than you and my beard is most wonderful.Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9140 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3 |
But I am not lying. If I were you could provide evidence.
Troll.What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9140 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3 |
We should compare beards. Mine is most wonderful too.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4409 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.4 |
I just saw a report the the Ukrainians will release any captured Russian soldiers to their mommies. And apparently lots of the invaders ate all their supplies while they were amassing for the invasion.
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq |
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4409 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.4 |
Hey, I even got a Respect the Beard coffee mug from my granddaughter for Xmas. Although I have had to trim mine back so my face mask will fit tightly.
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4409 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.4 |
He's just pissed that no one acknowledges the spectacularness of his membership in Trump's Moron Cult and the National Geographic Society.
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9140 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3 |
Wow! National Geographic Society.
Big hitter, the Lama.What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4409 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.4 |
I know. It's tough to get in.
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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LamarkNewAge Member Posts: 2312 Joined: |
People here feel that 10% of Republicans holding a favorable view of Putin is just too much to stomach.
I feel that it is a miracle that even 10% get enough (balanced?) information to be able to form an independent thought. EvC has a mass of posters that have a fascist mindset, granted - but, even this lot clearly suffer from only hearing the imperalistic, expansionist, militaristic, "western" side in the debate. The country will buy the b.s. Democrats will swallow the imperalistic cool-aid, and feel that it is "too Republican" to try to learn about the various sides in the (POTENTIAL) "debate", so Democratic views will start to mirror the anti-Russian views of Republicans. John McCain & Mitt Romney (and Hillary,too!) were defeated by a war-weary electorate, that seemed to be growing in suspicion when it came to nationalism, imperialism & propaganda. But, there seems to be a reconstitution at work. Masterful never-ending propaganda has managed to brainwashed EVEN IN THE INTERNET AGE. And it sucks. And it is scary. *Can we please have a revamped *fairness doctrine, with fully updated rules governing search engines, social media, etc. My revamped Fairness Doctrine would be based around ADDING INFORMATION, not censorship. Make people's world smarter, not smaller!
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9140 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3 |
Can we please have posters that back their assertions with actual facts and sources?
Troll.What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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