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Tanypteryx
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Message 61 of 995 (892242)
03-03-2022 10:33 PM
Reply to: Message 59 by LamarkNewAge
03-03-2022 10:11 PM


Re: What happened to the "Fairness Doctrine"?
None of us are surprised at your open support of a murderous tyrant like Putin. And we're equally not surprised that you know nothing about fairness, or Fascists or democrats or history and that you just a stinky little anarchist and troll.

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Message 62 of 995 (892243)
03-03-2022 10:46 PM
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03-03-2022 10:33 PM


Re: What happened to the "Fairness Doctrine"?
Would be interested to know where he is from. From his sentence structure and unfamiliarity with the spelling of certain words he is seemingly not from the USA.
No one in the USA would spell it "cool aid".

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Tanypteryx
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Message 63 of 995 (892244)
03-03-2022 10:49 PM
Reply to: Message 62 by Theodoric
03-03-2022 10:46 PM


Re: What happened to the "Fairness Doctrine"?
He claims he's posting with his phone so that might be part of his issues.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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PaulK
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Message 64 of 995 (892245)
03-04-2022 12:21 AM
Reply to: Message 59 by LamarkNewAge
03-03-2022 10:11 PM


Re: What happened to the "Fairness Doctrine"?
quote:
People here feel that 10% of Republicans holding a favorable view of Putin is just too much to stomach
They do? It isn’t good when Putin is a murdering fascist tyrant. But I haven’t seen anyone complaining about that. The influential voices speaking in favour of Putin is a bigger problem.
quote:
EvC has a mass of posters that have a fascist mindset, granted - but, even this lot clearly suffer from only hearing the imperalistic, expansionist, militaristic, "western" side in the debate.
The “imperialist, expansionist, militaristic” force in this discussion would be the Russians. And your projection is noted.
quote:
The country will buy the b.s. Democrats will swallow the imperalistic cool-aid, and feel that it is "too Republican" to try to learn about the various sides in the (POTENTIAL) "debate", so Democratic views will start to mirror the anti-Russian views of Republicans.
I would think that the fact that Russia is an imperialistic expansionist power that has launched a war against a peaceful neighbour has rather a lot to do with any negative impressions.
quote:
John McCain & Mitt Romney (and Hillary,too!) were defeated by a war-weary electorate, that seemed to be growing in suspicion when it came to nationalism, imperialism & propaganda.
Your list of hate figures is very telling,
quote:
But, there seems to be a reconstitution at work. Masterful never-ending propaganda has managed to brainwashed EVEN IN THE INTERNET AGE.
And it sucks.
There is plenty of Russian propaganda out there.
quote:
*Can we please have a revamped *fairness doctrine, with fully updated rules governing search engines, social media, etc. My revamped Fairness Doctrine would be based around ADDING INFORMATION, not censorship. Make people's world smarter, not smaller!
So you want more Russian propaganda, Covid disinformation, conspiracy theories etc. etc. Oh and all the bogus claims about how Trump won the 2020 election, of course.

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Message 65 of 995 (892246)
03-04-2022 2:04 AM
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03-04-2022 12:21 AM


Re: What happened to the "Fairness Doctrine"?
Europe's largest nuclear power plant shelled and on fire.
Europe's largest nuclear plant shelled in Ukraine - BBC News
Are these people actually insane?

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PaulK
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Message 66 of 995 (892247)
03-04-2022 3:44 AM
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03-03-2022 10:11 PM


Re: What happened to the "Fairness Doctrine"?
Oh, and for your information the Fairness Doctrine only applied to broadcast media, and it was repealed under Reagan in 1987.

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vimesey
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Message 67 of 995 (892248)
03-04-2022 4:21 AM
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03-04-2022 2:04 AM


Re: What happened to the "Fairness Doctrine"?
Are these people actually insane?
Yep. They (and to be honest, half or more of the world's leaders) are at a point where their level of privilege and power has removed them from the world of decency, compassion and sanity.
They are prepared to consider wiping out billions of fellow human beings in a nuclear holocaust, as long as they get to survive in a sparkly nuclear bunker, with enough luxuries, lapdogs and concubines to keep them happy until they die.
Saddest fact of all is that so many ordinary people are prepared to swallow their lies and vote them in to power. "Don't trust democracy, with all of its kindness, equality and attemps to save the planet - vote for autocracy instead, and we'll let you piss on some minorities (as long as we get to piss on you, of course)."

Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?

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Message 68 of 995 (892249)
03-04-2022 8:03 AM


And Chernobyl is already in Russian hands.

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Message 69 of 995 (892250)
03-04-2022 9:04 AM


Interesting Twitter thread.
If this is correct it explains a lot.
Essentially the Russian paratroopers - although they’re an elite unit - rely on fear rather than fighting capability. Against solid resistance they are not very effective. We know that they haven’t been successful in Ukraine.
Also, Russian logistics are terrible. The reason they have a massive convoy sitting in the road to Kyiv is that they don’t have the supplies to get it there. Long may that situation continue!

  
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Message 70 of 995 (892251)
03-04-2022 10:08 AM
Reply to: Message 28 by Theodoric
03-02-2022 9:43 AM


Re: This War Is Very Depressing To Me
Though I had not read much of Robert Reich, I was intrigued due to the fact that his information challenged so much of my own. Here is more by him:

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
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(1894).


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Message 71 of 995 (892252)
03-04-2022 10:48 AM
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03-04-2022 10:08 AM


Re: This War Is Very Depressing To Me
Though I had not read much of Robert Reich, I was intrigued due to the fact that his information challenged so much of my own.
Reich is right about this, as others have been trying to explain to you in the past.

Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity

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Theodoric
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Message 72 of 995 (892253)
03-04-2022 11:21 AM
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03-04-2022 3:44 AM


Re: What happened to the "Fairness Doctrine"?
Are wing nuts that ignorant of things like the fairness doctrine? I still think this troll may not be from US.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Message 73 of 995 (892254)
03-04-2022 11:24 AM
Reply to: Message 67 by vimesey
03-04-2022 4:21 AM


Right wing pecking order view of society
It is what I call the right-wing pecking order vision of society. They know that a fair number of people will support them if they are convinced that no matter how low they are in the order or how bad their life is, there is someone lower on the pecking order than they are.
Edited by Theodoric, : new sub

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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jar
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Message 74 of 995 (892255)
03-04-2022 11:28 AM
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03-04-2022 11:21 AM


Re: What happened to the "Fairness Doctrine"?
A large percentage of the US population is willfully ignorant and proud of that fact.

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Tanypteryx
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Message 75 of 995 (892256)
03-04-2022 11:44 AM
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03-04-2022 11:21 AM


Re: What happened to the "Fairness Doctrine"?
Are wing nuts that ignorant of things like the fairness doctrine? I still think this troll may not be from US.
Well, he is completely fucking nuts too, to put it politely.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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