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Author Topic:   Electro-mechanical engines of Perpetual Motion and Natural Selection
Melchior
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Message 150 of 202 (87959)
02-22-2004 10:04 AM


I would like some sort of step by step explanation of the
quote:
VI in = VI out + Eddy Current heat to cooling oil
to
quote:
ZERO = I2R Eddy current heat = conceivably EVERYTHING = -Mc2 fission
process.

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Melchior
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Message 152 of 202 (88778)
02-26-2004 8:29 AM
Reply to: Message 151 by Dr Cresswell
02-26-2004 8:03 AM


Well, quite frankly I didn't expect an answer. But it's one of the most creative formulas I've seen in a long time, which made me assume he put some thought behind it.
The only bit which seems to come from any normal math is the simple V = R * I => VI = R * I * I = R * I^2.

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Melchior
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Message 154 of 202 (89222)
02-28-2004 6:17 AM
Reply to: Message 153 by Alan Cresswell
02-28-2004 5:52 AM


Could you *please* explain how you do that balance, then? Because quite frankly you can't just skip a lot of steps and ask us to be sure of the validity of those steps.
Step by step, don't skip ANYTHING.

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Melchior
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Message 156 of 202 (89226)
02-28-2004 7:00 AM
Reply to: Message 155 by Alan Cresswell
02-28-2004 6:29 AM


Where does the R come from? It's not marked in the figure. Where does the I come from? You have several currents in a transformator. Why are none of them marked and distinguished?
Also, I hope your - I^2 * R isn't ment to represent energy losses (compared to the coils), because if so you've introduced a negative resistance.
[This message has been edited by Melchior, 02-28-2004]

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Melchior
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Message 158 of 202 (89244)
02-28-2004 10:01 AM
Reply to: Message 157 by Alan Cresswell
02-28-2004 8:28 AM


I don't think you understand what your formula indicates. If it were correct, you would not get any heat at all. In fact, you'd get a negative amount of heat energy (that is, you would be required to supply heat to the machine in order to get electricity out of it).
Your formula clearly states that Pout = Pin + Pheat.
There would be no free heat at all! You'd also need to make some rather strange changes to the way time acts if you want heat to transform into electricity without any outside forces.
I hoped you would have at least thought this through and had a rudimentary knowledge on how to handle equations, given your rather imaginative wordings, but it seems like you haven't.

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Melchior
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Message 160 of 202 (89574)
03-01-2004 12:26 PM


Which is why I figured I'd get some amusement out of it myself, by hoping he could at least bring up a 'decent' defense for it, but... Seems not.
Of course I don't take it seriously.

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Melchior
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Message 162 of 202 (89606)
03-01-2004 3:34 PM
Reply to: Message 161 by Alan Cresswell
03-01-2004 3:11 PM


I haven't ever seen a person get bosonified. Wouldn't that be rather painful? It would also end your career rather quickly, since most employers wouldn't like you not being material at work.

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Melchior
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Message 164 of 202 (89648)
03-01-2004 7:06 PM
Reply to: Message 163 by Eta_Carinae
03-01-2004 5:19 PM


Re: mmm what is that smell?
quote:
(Alan Cresswell hot air)^3 + (Misapplied physics)^2/3 + (Cresswell paranoia) = c^2 * Googol
Aha! Since no real work has been put into his ideas, but a lot of hot air comes out of them, we can conclude that this is indeed a perpetual crank engine.
(Take this as a joke)

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Melchior
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Message 166 of 202 (89660)
03-01-2004 8:07 PM
Reply to: Message 165 by Alan Cresswell
03-01-2004 7:36 PM


Re: mmm what is that smell?
I believe the only way to set up such a deal would be with a written agreement. When it comes to sums that large, I assume you understand why you can't just make a deal semi-anonymous over the internet.
Other forum members would not be able to provide anything; I do not believe forum posts weight much legally.
If you are willing to back up your claims, and have some honour in accepting the bet, I suggest you visit your local authorities and inquire on how to establish this legally.
Surely mere dollars would be a small price to pay for such a world-revolting event.

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Melchior
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Message 171 of 202 (89735)
03-02-2004 6:34 AM


I have been unable to access it in a while, yes. Can't you trace the IP's of the incoming connections? If it affects your ISP too, I'm sure they'll take it seriously.
With semi-anonymously, I did not so much refer to names and such. Since you too has never actually met or directly spoken to each other, I'm quite sure any lawyer would regard it as not being serious.
And, regarding the tape; what steps will BBC take to ensure the genuinity of it?

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Melchior
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Message 174 of 202 (89744)
03-02-2004 7:56 AM
Reply to: Message 173 by Alan Cresswell
03-02-2004 7:43 AM


Re: Paranoia?
If you are serious about the bet, you two should contact your lawyers. They should know how to deal with it.
And surely a TV showing would only be 'useful' if they can independly confirm it?

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Melchior
Inactive Member


Message 188 of 202 (149088)
10-11-2004 8:47 AM
Reply to: Message 187 by tsig
10-10-2004 3:19 PM


Re: links
No, we've asked that before. He will not explain the equation. Quite frankly, there isn't anything worthwhile in this; he doesn't even have the humour some 'inventive' people have.

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