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Topic: The War in Europe
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AZPaul3
Member Posts: 8536 From: Phoenix Joined: 11-06-2006 Member Rating: 5.0
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Re: NATO Support
... you fascists could at least point out ... Your concern is not a fascist me, dear Comrade LNA, but the aware and watching world. We have seen, in real-time, just what the Russian state will do with a mad man as Tzar. The Great Russian Empire will burn along with the rest of the world very easily. Your Tzar will destroy the very thing his glory tells him he is saving. Depose your Tzar. Overthrow Tzar Vladimir the Condemned. Free the Russian people, and the world, once again.
Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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Tangle
Member Posts: 9504 From: UK Joined: 10-07-2011 Member Rating: 4.8
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Re: NATO Support
LNA writes: Ukraine will wake up. They have been had. Ukraine has been woken up by rockets, bombs and artillery destroying its cities and killing its citizens. Do you support this invasion?
Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine. "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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LamarkNewAge
Member Posts: 2330 Joined: 12-22-2015 Member Rating: 1.2
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Message 288 of 995 (892628)
03-11-2022 1:52 AM
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Reply to: Message 287 by Tangle
03-11-2022 1:44 AM
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Re: NATO Support
Fascists like you want endless war. I wont even ask you. I know. I already know.
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Tangle
Member Posts: 9504 From: UK Joined: 10-07-2011 Member Rating: 4.8
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Re: NATO Support
It was a very simple question LMA, do you support what Russia is doing to Ukraine?
Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine. "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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Percy
Member Posts: 22480 From: New Hampshire Joined: 12-23-2000 Member Rating: 4.8
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Message 290 of 995 (892640)
03-11-2022 9:16 AM
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Jonathan Pie on British Support for Russian Oligarchs
Couldn't embed this, but here's a link, might not work without a subscription to the NYT: Opinion | How Putin Weaponized London’s Greed - The New York Times --Percy
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9143 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.3
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South Africa
Here is a more nuanced analysis of South Africa. It comports well with the people I know in South Africa. I find it hilarious that you call me a supporter of white nationalism and imperialism. Do you know anything about Puerto Rico?
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9143 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.3
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Personal attacks need to stop now
Stop the personal attacks. Now.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Phat
Member Posts: 18310 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: 12-30-2003 Member Rating: 1.1
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Re: LNA Unplugged?
LNA writes: You might not have been born, if not for Stalin. I was born in the US. What possible power could Stalin have had to deny me my birth? Only Jesus Christ has that kind of power.
I was born in 1977. I doubt I would have been born, if not for Stalin. Aside from metaphysical theories, we would all have failed to come to be, if not for Stalin. Reminds me of the philosophy of Nietzesche, which influenced Adolf Hitler and Josef Stalin. This gets into the sick and demented demons of justification for mad power and disdain for God and the church. Jar has argued that Hitler was a Christian. He was, however, under the delusion that the God he worshipped was in lockstep with the State. Hitler and Stalin shared some characteristics.
I am a "Marxist forever", just because I existed from 1977 to 2022. My existence cannot be taken away, no matter how hard somebody - NOW - trys. You can bet that the Christians in Ukraine feel the same way. Only they worship the "God" of the West vs the "God" of the State. Persecution makes people stronger. One question, LNA. Were you born in S.Africa? Certainly not born in the West. And in looking up
Winnie Mandela, I can see where your possible hatred of white privilege began. But again, I am only speculating. And for the rest of the peanut gallery who has branded LNA as a mass murderer supporter, I need to connect the dots between Stalin and Putin. One clue may come in the religious historical rift between the Russian Orthodox Church and the Ukrainian Orthodox Church. White and Red.
Edited by Phat, : added picture
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** “…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox “A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.”
H. Richard Niebuhr, The Kingdom of God in America “The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
(1894).
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Tanypteryx
Member Posts: 4413 From: Oregon, USA Joined: 08-27-2006 Member Rating: 5.3
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Message 294 of 995 (892650)
03-11-2022 11:34 AM
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Reply to: Message 293 by Phat
03-11-2022 9:43 AM
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Re: LNA Unplugged?
LNA writes: You might not have been born, if not for Stalin. I think he's implying that without Stalin as an Ally, Hitler would have won WWII and murdered the rest of the world.
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty PythonOne important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Tangle
Member Posts: 9504 From: UK Joined: 10-07-2011 Member Rating: 4.8
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Message 295 of 995 (892659)
03-11-2022 2:20 PM
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Third Russian general killed. Major General Andrei Kolesnikov of the 29th Combined Arms Army, shot by sniper.
Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine. "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9143 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.3
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Message 296 of 995 (892661)
03-11-2022 2:42 PM
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Reply to: Message 295 by Tangle
03-11-2022 2:20 PM
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I wonder if they used that mole to aim at. Inappropriate? Hell yeah it is. As is this whole war and the deaths of multitudes of innocent men, women and CHILDREN. May all who support Putin rot in their own personal hell.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Phat
Member Posts: 18310 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: 12-30-2003 Member Rating: 1.1
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Re: LNA Unplugged?
If you wanna go there, Hitler would have lost even if Russia never entered the War. It would have taken far longer and cost a mammoth amount of future NATO lives(Europe+USA) but the real reason Hitler lost the war was because of his antisemitism. The Jewish Scientists who escaped Nazi Germany were in large part responsible for the Atomic Bomb, V2 rocket (history of missiles), and jet fighters (which Hitler insisted be bombers, reducing their effectiveness. That being said, a lot of Russian lives were lost in WWII, and also a lot of German lives could have shored up Normandy and changed the course of history. I won't give Stalin all of the credit.
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** “…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox “A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.”
H. Richard Niebuhr, The Kingdom of God in America “The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
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Tanypteryx
Member Posts: 4413 From: Oregon, USA Joined: 08-27-2006 Member Rating: 5.3
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Message 298 of 995 (892665)
03-11-2022 3:28 PM
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Reply to: Message 297 by Phat
03-11-2022 3:12 PM
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Re: LNA Unplugged?
If you wanna go there I don't. It's LNA's bullshit. Attributing conditions of individual people alive today with specific actions by the dictator of one country in a world war is meaningless bullshit. The history of event during WWII is quite extensively documented from many different perspectives and LNA is attempting to twist it all to look like one of the biggest villains in history, that we reluctantly allied with, Stalin, is the hero who saved us all. It's pure stinky BULLSHIT!
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty PythonOne important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9143 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.3
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Message 299 of 995 (892666)
03-11-2022 3:50 PM
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Reply to: Message 297 by Phat
03-11-2022 3:12 PM
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Re: LNA Unplugged?
Look up V2 and jet fighters. Neither support your argument.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Tanypteryx
Member Posts: 4413 From: Oregon, USA Joined: 08-27-2006 Member Rating: 5.3
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Re: LNA Unplugged?
Look up V2 and jet fighters. Neither support your argument. Yep, Wernher von Braun sure as shit wasn't a Jewish rocket scientist. He developed the V2 for the Nazis. Phat's history needs some serious revisions.
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty PythonOne important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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