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MrIntelligentDesign
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Message 256 of 1197 (892818)
03-15-2022 3:55 AM
Reply to: Message 252 by dwise1
03-14-2022 3:04 PM


Re: What do the Reviews of MrID's Book Say?
I am not an ordinary scientist, I discovered intelligence and non-intelligence! I am a discoverer, a falsifier and more than an ordinary scientist!
EVOLUTION HAS BEEN FALSIFIED! | Zenodo

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vimesey
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Message 257 of 1197 (892819)
03-15-2022 8:02 AM
Reply to: Message 253 by MrIntelligentDesign
03-15-2022 3:47 AM


Well, I tried kindness and it didn't work, so I'll leave you to your own world and crack on with this one.

Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?

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Tangle
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Message 258 of 1197 (892822)
03-15-2022 9:27 AM
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03-15-2022 8:02 AM


His delusion is too fixed for kindness - or anything - to help.

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine.

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 259 of 1197 (892824)
03-15-2022 9:32 AM
Reply to: Message 256 by MrIntelligentDesign
03-15-2022 3:55 AM


Re: What do the Reviews of MrID's Book Say?
I discovered intelligence and non-intelligence!
No, you didn't.
You use the word "intelligence" a lot in your writings. But you never explain what it is or how it works. You've got nothing.

Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity

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ringo
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Message 260 of 1197 (892828)
03-15-2022 11:43 AM
Reply to: Message 256 by MrIntelligentDesign
03-15-2022 3:55 AM


Re: What do the Reviews of MrID's Book Say?
MrIntelligentDesign writes:
I am not an ordinary scientist, I discovered intelligence and non-intelligence!
You've certainly demonstrated non-intelligence but it dates back to pond-scum, so you couldn't have invented it. Did you invent arrogance too?

"I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!"
-- Lucky Ned Pepper

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dwise1
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Message 261 of 1197 (892832)
03-15-2022 2:55 PM
Reply to: Message 255 by MrIntelligentDesign
03-15-2022 3:53 AM


Re: What do the Reviews of MrID's Book Say?
what do you think of those journals? lol!
Which journals? Identify them, you idiot! Give names. And if you did indeed receive rejection letters, then tell us what they said in those rejection letters. Until you do that, then you are just bullshitting us yet again and we will be fully justified in considering you to be a fucking liar.
Obviously those journals (if you had indeed submitted to them and aren't just lying to us) have standards for the quality of articles that they will consider. We've had a chance to see what you had submitted to them and it is pure crap! Why would you ever expect any respectable journal to publish such rancid crap as you had written?
lol!
Why do you think that this is a "laughing out loud" situation? The only joke we all see here is you.
What the hell is your problem?
EVOLUTION HAS BEEN FALSIFIED!
Where? How? Most certainly not in that link! We've looked at it already and it does not succeed in falsifying evolution! For that matter, it doesn't even succeed in defining evolution.
How could you ever possibly falsify anything without knowing anything about what you are trying to falsify? Thinking as you do that you could succeed through near-total ignorance is sheer stupidity!
And your "analysis" of descent with modification in which you insist that "modification" requires an external intelligence is just plain brainless. Science uses language to describe observations, whereas philosophy (and lawyering) uses language to change observations. As the lowest form of philosophy, theology also tries to redefine words in order to change reality. You are trying to practice theology, not science.
And just what is all the nonsense about "Dislocated Parts" that you go on and on about for many pages suppose to describe? What the hell are you talking about?
Even though the level of writing is greatly improved over your past efforts, you still make absolutely no fucking sense!
And how could anyone expect any serious and reputable science journal to publish something that not only makes absolutely no fucking sense, but doesn't even have anything to do with science.
 
I have been telling creationists this for decades:
quote:
If you honestly and truly want to fight evolution, then at least do it right! Learn everything you can about evolution and then attack it, not some stupid strawman caricature of it. And do so honestly and truthfully!
You are failing miserably. Your first step must be to learn what evolution actually is, not what you fantasize it to be.
Just curious: are you seeing the same psychiatrist as Trump is for your malignant narcissism?

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dwise1
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Message 262 of 1197 (892834)
03-15-2022 3:23 PM
Reply to: Message 256 by MrIntelligentDesign
03-15-2022 3:55 AM


Re: What do the Reviews of MrID's Book Say?
What you just did is what's called a non sequitur, a "reply" that has nothing whatsoever to do with that to which it is "replying." Also known as "changing the subject" or "running away."
Here is your "reply":
MrID writes:
I am not an ordinary scientist, I discovered intelligence and non-intelligence! I am a discoverer, a falsifier and more than an ordinary scientist!
Besides being absolutely false and a completely empty boast indicating pathological delusions of grandeur, it has absolutely no bearing on my message which you falsely claim to be replying to (AKA "lying"):
DWise1 writes:
Standard academic advice on giving snow jobs:
quote:
If you cannot blind them with your brilliance, then baffle them with your bullshit.
Mr. "Grasshopper" ID has learned his lessons well.
A "snow job" is when you try to hide the fact that you have no idea what you are talking about by subjecting your audience with an overabundance of verbiage and fancy sounding words including a lot of undefined terms. The imagery is that of burying your audience (typically your professor through an essay question on an exam) under a mountain of snow, hence "snow job" or "snowing someone". That's what you yourself constantly do here except you keep trying to bury us under a mountain of bullshit. We could say that you're working on your bullshit PhD ("Piled Higher and Deeper").
You are markedly incapable of dazing anybody with your brilliance, since you have none. A 5-Watt light bulb is far more brilliant than you are. A glow-in-the-dark watch face outshines you.
Therefore, you must resort to trying to baffle us with your bullshit. The reason that that won't work is because your bullshit is of such inferior quality. Perhaps if you didn't try to model yourself after Trump, especially in his malignant narcissism, you might have a chance to straighten yourself out, but sadly that is far beyond you.
And let's face it, you have discovered nothing (quite the contrary, since you are avoiding the discovery that you are full of shit) nor are you any kind of discoverer, you have falsified nothing, and you are not in any sense of the word a scientist.
You suffer from delusions of adequacy.
EVOLUTION HAS BEEN FALSIFIED!
Why do you keep posting that lie? What is wrong with you?

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Tanypteryx
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Message 263 of 1197 (892839)
03-15-2022 5:20 PM
Reply to: Message 256 by MrIntelligentDesign
03-15-2022 3:55 AM


Re: What do the Reviews of MrID's Book Say?
Hey Dude, you have to ask yourself, why hasn't a single scientist, in the whole world, recognized your brilliant discovery yet?
I am not an ordinary scientist
We all know that you are not a scientist, not even an ordinary scientist!
You are an extraordinary pseudoscientist.
I discovered intelligence and non-intelligence!
No, based on what you have written, you discovered stupid and stupider.
I am a discoverer, a falsifier and more than an ordinary scientist!
Then why are you the only person on this whole planet saying it?
No one else has noticed your brilliance. Wake Up!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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MrIntelligentDesign
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Message 264 of 1197 (892843)
03-15-2022 7:14 PM
Reply to: Message 257 by vimesey
03-15-2022 8:02 AM


That is why, If I were you, I will be seriously rediscovering intelligence and non-intelligence, and see for yourself!
Below are your guides:
EVOLUTION HAS BEEN FALSIFIED! | Zenodo
The New Intelligent Design <id> and Its Powerful Correct Scientific Explanations. | Zenodo

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MrIntelligentDesign
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Message 265 of 1197 (892844)
03-15-2022 7:16 PM
Reply to: Message 258 by Tangle
03-15-2022 9:27 AM


I am not deluded! I have science articles to be read and to be rebut!!
I always back-up my claim in writings!
YOU DO NOT HAVE!!!
EVOLUTION HAS BEEN FALSIFIED! | Zenodo
The New Intelligent Design <id> and Its Powerful Correct Scientific Explanations. | Zenodo

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MrIntelligentDesign
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Message 266 of 1197 (892845)
03-15-2022 7:19 PM
Reply to: Message 263 by Tanypteryx
03-15-2022 5:20 PM


Re: What do the Reviews of MrID's Book Say?
I do not care if no one recognize me...I do not even bother that. What I do really care so much is if I am right or wrong! Because eventually, truth will always find its way! If the Earth is round, even though the whole word will tell you that it is flat, you will never care! You will surely care if you are right!!
EVOLUTION HAS BEEN FALSIFIED! | Zenodo
The New Intelligent Design <id> and Its Powerful Correct Scientific Explanations. | Zenodo

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dwise1
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Message 267 of 1197 (892846)
03-15-2022 7:20 PM
Reply to: Message 253 by MrIntelligentDesign
03-15-2022 3:47 AM


But is Any of Your Stuff Googly, MrID?
Reason: I discovered the topic of intelligence and non-intelligence, and I can basically categorize all topics in Biology or anything.
You "discovered" the wrong property. Instead, what is important is something's Googliness. If you cannot show how Googly something is, then you have nothing.
You are obviously far too stupid to even detect something's Googliness let alone identify and describe it -- though of course Googliness is one of those properties that when you do attempt to describe it then you have lost it.
 
So until you are able to start crawling out of your self-imposed deep hole of ignorance, stupidity, and non-Googly nature, please answer these simple questions:
  1. What is evolution? Do not simply copy-and-paste the crap that you wrote in your "article", because that's not what it is. Instead of plagiarizing yourself, provide an honest answer.
    HINT: This would be similar to Admin's repeated requests for you to summarize your "falsification of evolution" (refer Message 2, Message 4, and Message 6 in your proposed EVOLUTION IS FALSIFIED!!!!!!!), which you have proven incapable of doing (a sure sign that you do not understand what you had yourself written -- assuming that you had not plagiarized it from another creationist).
  2. How does evolution work? Present and describe evolutionary processes and how they work. Please try to be as detailed as you can be. Presenting it as a step-by-step process would work best. Correlating evolutionary processes with how life itself works is desirable.
  3. Where in how evolution works (ie, Question #2) is an external intelligence required? Furthermore, which parts in how evolution works would not work if and external intelligence does not impose itself? Isn't that fundamental to the entire idea of "intelligent design"? So where is it needed and where is it not needed?
    For example, if reproduction is one of the steps of how evolution works, is the intervention of an intelligence required or not required?
I will remind you that in order for you to falsify evolution, you must understand it! That means that you must know what evolution is and how evolution works. If you are ignorant of those two things, then there is no way you could ever possibly falsify evolution.
Please stop ignoring General Sun Tzu's teaching and instead heed it:
quote:
Sun Tzu, Scroll III (Offensive Strategy):
31. Therefore I say: "Know the enemy and know yourself; in a hundred battles you will never be in peril.
32. When you are ignorant of the enemy but know yourself, your chances of winning or losing are equal.
33. If ignorant both of your enemy and of yourself, you are certain in every battle to be in peril."
(Sun Tzu The Art of War, translation by Samuel B. Griffith, Oxford University Press, 1963)
You are ignorant both of your enemy and of yourself, so you are certain in every battle to be in peril. As has been demonstrated repeatedly and consistently on this forum.
 
I challenge anybody to fight with me intellectually, to rediscover intelligence, write in Zenodo, with experiment and compare with me. Anybody who could beat me on this topic of intelligence will surely make me stupid and moron, and I will say sorry to all and unpublish all my articles and books.
Translation:
quote:
I challenge anybody to fight with me intellectually, to rediscover purple gremlin juice (which is what makes everything in the universe work), write in Zenodo, with experiment and compare with me. Anybody who could beat me on this topic of purple gremlin juice will surely make me stupid and moron, and I will say sorry to all and unpublish all my articles and books.
Your entire thesis and its execution are complete and utter bullshit. In order to refute bullshit, it is only necessary to expose that bullshit as bullshit. There is no requirement to create the same bullshit (eg, your purple gremlin juice) yourself. It is a very good idea to understand that bullshit as thoroughly as possible, but unfortunately it is in the nature of bullshit to be incomprehensible, especially to rational minds. Rather, bullshit can be understood only by the mind (or facsimile thereof) of the bullshitter himself, though even then even the bullshitter himself is unable to understand his own bullshit (you yourself being an obvious case of that situation, which is why you are unable to summarize your "falsification").
And we have been trying argue with you intellectually, but unfortunately you have proven yourself to not be up to that challenge. It is very difficult for an intelligent person, such as we are, to argue intellectually with a willfully ignorant blithering idiot, such as you.
Anyone? Call all your best scientists and join them together as one big force, and let us intellectually fight. Let us see who will win.
Refer to the previous section:
DWise1 writes:
And we have been trying argue with you intellectually, but unfortunately you have proven yourself to not be up to that challenge. It is very difficult for an intelligent person, such as we are, to argue intellectually with a willfully ignorant blithering idiot, such as you.
Face it. You are simply not up to the task.
 
EVOLUTION HAS BEEN FALSIFIED!
Please stop lying!

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MrIntelligentDesign
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Message 268 of 1197 (892847)
03-15-2022 7:24 PM
Reply to: Message 261 by dwise1
03-15-2022 2:55 PM


Re: What do the Reviews of MrID's Book Say?
I knew Evolution, if I am not, I cannot falsify Evolution. But probably you knew Evolution, but you do not know reality.
If you think that I am wrong in my falsification of Evolution, just rebut them. Write your rebuttal and give me the link, and let us discuss.. OR YOU SHUT UP and support me!
EVOLUTION HAS BEEN FALSIFIED! | Zenodo
The New Intelligent Design <id> and Its Powerful Correct Scientific Explanations. | Zenodo

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MrIntelligentDesign
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Message 269 of 1197 (892848)
03-15-2022 7:25 PM
Reply to: Message 267 by dwise1
03-15-2022 7:20 PM


Re: But is Any of Your Stuff Googly, MrID?
Tell me, why should I believe in Google?

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Tanypteryx
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Message 270 of 1197 (892851)
03-15-2022 8:27 PM
Reply to: Message 266 by MrIntelligentDesign
03-15-2022 7:19 PM


Re: What do the Reviews of MrID's Book Say?
What I do really care so much is if I am right or wrong!
Everyone is telling you that you are WRONG.
Because eventually, truth will always find its way!
The truth has found its way and it says 160 years of evidence prove evolution is true! YOU ARE WRONG and EVOLUTION IS RIGHT!
If the Earth is round, even though the whole word will tell you that it is flat
The whole world is telling us that the Earth is round.
EVERYONE KNOWS THE EARTH IS ROUND AND EVOLUTION IS CORRECT AND YOU ARE WRONG!
EVOLUTION HAS NEVER BEEN FALSIFIED! YOU ARE WRONG!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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