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ringo Member (Idle past 411 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Phat writes:
I meant to say, "Many people of faith are also people of evidence."
You make no sense. Phat writes:
That has nothing to do with anything I said, sensible or otherwise. First off, you are not a person of faith. You think Jesus is an Elmer Gantry Compilation. But I DO have faith in the message - just like I have faith in gravity. Reality confirms that they work. It doesn't matter who the messenger is, whether it's Jesus or Elmer Gantry. The message works. And that's what matters.
Phat writes:
I don't "scold" you for not doing what the messenger says. I point out that you ignore the message. You argue against the message. How does that demonstrate faith in the messenger?
Then you turn around and scold me for not listening to what the character in the book says. Phat writes:
Of course it does. If Jesus tells you to be an idiot, be an idiot. Just because I refuse to be an idiot and sell all that I have does not mean I don't otherwise listen to the character... The disciples were idiots. The lady with two mites was an idiot. The widow who fed Elijah was an idiot. The members of the early church were idiots (except for Ananias and Sapphira, who were killed for not being idiots). Many members of monastic groups, Christian and non-Christian, are idiots. Jesus requires you to be an idiot. You can't get into heaven without being an idiot.
Phat writes:
I'm not judging you. I'm pointing out how Jesus will judge you.
I cannot really judge you as you feel driven to judge me. Phat writes:
As I said, it was a gaffe. I meant to say, "Many people of faith are also people of evidence." But explain your statement.ringo writes: Many people of faith are also people of faith. And few people of faith are likely to swallow your nonsense. But it works as written too: You claim to be a person of faith but you have no actual faith in Jesus. You don't trust Him to take care of you. You insist on taking care of yourself. I also said, "And few people of faith are likely to swallow your nonsense." That should be self-explanatory. The people who DO live the life that Jesus required - Christians and non-Christians - obviously don't agree with you that it can't be done."I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing
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ringo Member (Idle past 411 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Michael MD writes:
Kurt Vonnegut had a recurring character named Kilgore Trout in several of his books. He was often just mentioned as "a science fiction writer who once wrote a story about an ether-based creation model" (or some similar premise). Vonnegut never attempted to fill out those ideas; they were just ideas. To try to boil my ether model down to its bare-bone essentials.- There are stories that mention ideas and then there are fleshed-out ideas and then there are scientific theories. You are Kilgore Trout."I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!" -- Lucky Ned Pepper
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ringo Member (Idle past 411 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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AZPaul3 writes:
In Canada, we sent them to residential schools to try to turn them white. Didn't work. Phat writes:
That's not easy to do with brown eggs. Tommy is so dull he dyes all his Easter Eggs white!"I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!" -- Lucky Ned Pepper
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ringo Member (Idle past 411 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Michael MD writes:
Remind us what "it" is. It would require financial sponsorship, as it would be pretty expensive."I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!" -- Lucky Ned Pepper
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ringo Member (Idle past 411 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Michael MD writes:
Y'know, codebreaking is also done via the scientific method. Decoded messages have to be compared with reality to determine whether or not the decoding worked. The basic ideas for the Model were obtained through codebreaking, of sets of codes, putatively enciphered by otherworldly sources."I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!" -- Lucky Ned Pepper
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ringo Member (Idle past 411 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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MichaelMD writes:
There's an indicator that you don't understand what is "now accepted". ... due not to a Big Bang and other random-chance cosmic processes, as is now accepted.... Natural selection is not a random-chance process. Hint: "selection"."I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!" -- Lucky Ned Pepper
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ringo Member (Idle past 411 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Tanypteryx writes:
A lot of the props for Frankenstein's lab in the 1931 movie were supposedly borrowed from Nikola Tesla. Jacob's ladders were mesmerizing!"I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!" -- Lucky Ned Pepper
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ringo Member (Idle past 411 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Topic: ether.
We were doing liquid-liquid extractions using ether. We were working in the fume hood, of course. Late in the afternoon, somebody came in and said, "I can smell your ether all the way down the hall." Maybe she was smelling Michael's ether."I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!" -- Lucky Ned Pepper |
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ringo Member (Idle past 411 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Tanypteryx writes:
Once upon a time, when Dana Carvey was on Saturday Night Live, he was playing a rock star. He was supposed to be writing songs for a new album that he was supposed to start recording today - but he was in his hotel room, stalling, because he hadn't written a note yet. He decided to have some lunch and he was chopping broccoli. He started to sing, "Choppin' broccoli... choppin' broccoli... choppin' broccoli... choppin' broccoli... choppin' broccoli...." Mentally beaming electrons...really? I think that's a better hook than, "Mentally beaming electrons....""I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!" -- Lucky Ned Pepper
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ringo Member (Idle past 411 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
MichaelMD writes:
In case you didn't get the joke, "Choppin' broccoli" is exactly what you sound like. There's no substance at all in what you're saying. The people on this thread want you to record some proper songs but you're just choppin' broccoli.
"Choppin broccoli" has nothing to do with it. This Thread is An Ether Based Creation Model. MichaelMD writes:
The war in Ukraine is serious. Covid-19 is serious. Inflation is serious. If that's not serious, what is? If you want your "model" to be taken more seriously, put it in limerick form."I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!" -- Lucky Ned Pepper
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ringo Member (Idle past 411 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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MichaelMD writes:
Your "model" doesn't make a lick of sense to anybody but you. If it did make sense, you could show it to scientists. My Ether Model makes the most sense. It isn't even a real model. It's just a bunch of random musings.
MichaelMD writes:
Of course. For one thing, it has allowed us to put men on the moon and bring them back. The currently accepted model works.
Should we continue with the model currently accepted in physics? MichaelMD writes:
You're just showing your complete ignorance of the currently-accepted model. You're trying to think outside the box when you don't understand the box. You're trying to tear down the house when you don't know how to build a new one. There was a "Big Bang" and "then atoms appeared." Learn something before you criticize the people who know."I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!" -- Lucky Ned Pepper
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ringo Member (Idle past 411 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
MichaelMD writes:
As I may have mentioned before, you can't think outside the box effectively until you understand the box. A change in your "cosmological perspective" isn't really relevant unless you understand the existing perspectives. And you don't seem to. With my ether model, and its concepts of design and maintenance in the cosmos, one's cosmological perspective changes completely."I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!" -- Lucky Ned Pepper
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ringo Member (Idle past 411 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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MichaelMD writes:
It's not an "implication"; it's a flat-out statement: You do not understand the mainstream models. You don't even understand what a model is, much less have the wherewithal to overthrow what thousands of scientists have spent millions of person-hours building. Where do you get your ego? I disagree with your implication that my Ether Model's perspectives and differences with respect to the currently accepted models of cosmology and physics is due to my "lack of understanding" the mainstream models."I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!" -- Lucky Ned Pepper
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ringo Member (Idle past 411 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
MichaelMD writes:
And that potential sponsor would immediately run your details past some scientific types who would tell him what you've been told here, that you're a crank. I would go into those details only to a potential financial sponsor. You might have a chance if your cranky idea had some economic potential, like an engine that runs on water."I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!" -- Lucky Ned Pepper
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ringo Member (Idle past 411 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Michael MD writes:
Tolkien's world was wide-ranging and logical. The Marvel Universe is wide-ranging and logical. The beauty of imagination is that it IS wide-ranging and (sometimes) logical. If this was all just my imagination, how could it be this wide-ranging and remain logical?"I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!" -- Lucky Ned Pepper
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