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marc9000
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Message 286 of 291 (893582)
04-16-2022 9:31 PM
Reply to: Message 281 by nwr
04-16-2022 12:35 PM


Re: Trolling for Truth
It is still a fact that people watch Maher for the laughs, not for the policy comments.

That is true, many who watch the late night clowns aren't the slightest bit interested in policy at all, yet while they're watching for laughs, they're somewhat of a captive audience for left wing indoctrination. Now the left is increasingly encouraging largely uninformed people like that to vote, to cancel out the votes of informed, productive Americans.

Before all this 'voter's rights' craze, the system worked pretty well, those uninterested, uninformed citizens weren't necessarily encouraged to vote. Often they were too stupid to be able to get themselves to the polling places on time, on the proper day. The left needs the votes of the stupid.

And nobody watches George Will for the laughs.

Sometimes I do! I'm sure there are many other actual conservatives who do too, it can be hilarious to watch people claim to be conservative yet hate ANYTHING Donald Trump did.


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Message 287 of 291 (893583)
04-16-2022 9:37 PM
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04-16-2022 9:31 PM


Re: Trolling for Truth
It can be hilarious to watch people claim to be christians and humans and yet love EVERYTHING Donald Turd did.

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Message 288 of 291 (893584)
04-16-2022 10:26 PM
Reply to: Message 283 by xongsmith
04-16-2022 2:43 PM


Re: The Biden Presidency Thus Far
marc, are you vaccinated yet? or are you an anti-vaxxer?

Somewhat in the middle. I got the two main Moderna doses last September, am now overdue for the 1st booster. Not (as of now) planning to bother with it. The pandemic seems to be winding down on its own, like the one from 100 years ago.

if you are, you can thank Biden for implementing the program so fast.

I can? "Operation Warp Speed" happened under the Trump administration.

quote:
The first news report of Operation Warp Speed was on April 29, 2020,[3][4][5] and the program was officially announced on May 15, 2020.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Warp_Speed

Can you tell me who was president in April and May of 2020? So Biden gets ALL the credit for the development of Covid vaccines? Where did you learn this, CNN?

if you're not, then you are an asshole to the health of the country. Asshole count++.

To borrow a line from an old Gene Hackman movie - If you're trying to get me to lose my composure, you're not going to succeed, I'm very good at what I do. (and I'm modest too)

Why would he make waves for his best pro-totalitarian friend in the US? No - he waits until a Democrat is in office. And you sort of "cheered". Asshole count++.

Putin feared and respected Trump, though they didn't have much in common. I "sort of cheered" because I don't like seeing the suffering that's gone on there. Putin sees / saw Biden for what he is, another weak, spineless Jimmy Carter.

What leaders? Name them

quote:
The White House unsuccessfully tried to arrange calls between President Biden and the de facto leaders of Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates as the U.S. was working to build international support for Ukraine and contain a surge in oil prices, said Middle East and U.S. officials.

Saudi, Emirati Leaders Decline Calls With Biden During Ukraine Crisis

Are they Putin, Il Jung, Erdogan, Le Pen? Yunno, the leading assholes of the world?

Not completely, but there may be a few you don't like. But it's often in the U.S. best interests to co-operate with them in certain ways, to have a president that's not a laughingstock.

It speaks volumes on YOU to pick on his age from a few grossly exaggerated right-wing clips.

How can they be exaggerated when they show his senile actions on video? But I apologize, the left never had anything derogatory to say about Trump personally, did they?

marc9000 writes:

Biden closed construction of the Keystone XL pipeline as soon as he took office.

LOLOL!!! What a dumbo YOU are to believe this has anything to do with gas prices.

That's something I'll never be able to understand, it's such basic economics to know that when production goes down, scarcity and prices go up. How you can claim that production (pipeline transportation in this case) can go down, and availability and price can stay the same, is beyond me. But I'm experienced enough on far left forums to know that if I try to explore that with you, you'll fly into a rage and immediately say that you didn't claim that at all!!! Then you'll call me a lot of vulgar names, and get a half dozen green dots, including one from Jar the conservative!

Dummy, No. Stupidity's sense...a few temporary jobs for NO FUCKIN OIL, instead we deliver it to the world market and take all the aquifer risks.

Do you know the route of the Keystone Pipeline? It goes from Canada right to the midwest U.S. and stops. It goes to U.S. refineries. Did CNN tell you that it goes right to world markets and we don't get it? Did you hear Peppermint Patty assure us that U.S. oil companies have countless permits to drill, and don't bother to do it? But she forgot to mention that there's NO Oil in those places, or not near enough to make it worthwhile.

Open your eyes! We want Medicare for All, we want to end voting rules that are clearly targeting non-white voters...

You act like these are things we once had, that Republicans have recently taken away. These are only very recent Democrat demands, they're not constitutional, and since the national debt is at an all time high, we can't afford them. This is the kind of goofiness that I think Bill Maher is referring to above, maybe you should watch that video again.

i may have missed a few somethings...

You missed one general one that covers it all, communism.


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Message 289 of 291 (893679)
04-18-2022 10:29 AM
Reply to: Message 288 by marc9000
04-16-2022 10:26 PM


Re: The Biden Presidency Thus Far
marc9000 replies:
Not (as of now) planning to bother with it. The pandemic seems to be winding down on its own, like the one from 100 years ago.

Think again. Everytime they (mostly Republican Governors and state officials) start to relax standards of masking and distancing, the virus comes back. I see that airplanes have backtracked on their premature relaxing of masking and now have returned to requiring masks.

I can? "Operation Warp Speed" happened under the Trump administration.

that was just his butt gas. he didn't implement it, just waved his hands at it.

So Biden gets ALL the credit for the development of Covid vaccines?

can't you read? i said IMPLEMENT, not DEVELOP. that was Germany and other foreign sites that developed it.

Putin feared and respected Trump, though they didn't have much in common.

You need to get better glasses. Putin regards Trump as a Useful Tool, not something to respect.

leaders of Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates

well, the fucking Saudis are such a fine group. aren't they responsible for birthing Osama Bin Laden? they have the world by the oily balls and that means the Republican Party and much of the Democrats.

the left never had anything derogatory to say about Trump personally, did they?

how about this from the right?:

A person asked the question, "Why are people so hostile towards President Donald Trump?"
Before you pass my answer off as “Another Liberal Snowflake” consider that
1.) I'm an independent centrist who has voted Republican way more often in my life than Democrat, and
2.) If you want to call someone who spent the entire decade of his 20’s serving in the Marine Corps a snowflake, I’d be ready to answer the question what did you do with your 20’s?
Why Liberals (And not-so liberals) are against President Trump.
A.) He lies. A LOT. Politifact rates 69% of the words he speaks as “Mostly False or worse” Only 17% of the things he says get a “Mostly True” or better rating. That is an absolutely unbelievable number. How he doesn’t speak more truth by mistake is beyond me. To put it in context, Obama’s rating was 26% mostly false or worse, and I had a problem with that. Many of Trump’s former business associates report that he has always been a compulsive liar, but now he’s the President of the United States, and that’s a problem. And this is a man who expects you to believe him when he points at other people and says “They’re lying”
B.) He’s an authoritarian populist, not a conservative. He advances regressive social policy while proposing to expand federal spending and federalist authority over states, both of which conservatives are supposed to hate.
C.) He pretends at Christianity to court the Religious Right but fails to live anything resembling a Christ-Like Life.
D.) His nationalist “America First” message effectively alienates us and removes us from our place as leaders in the international community.
E.) His ideas on “Keeping us safe” are all thinly veiled ideas to remove our freedoms, he is, after all, an authoritarian first. They also are simply bad ideas.
F.) He couldn’t pass a 3rd-grade civics exam. He doesn't’ know what he’s doing. He doesn't understand how international relations work, he doesn’t understand how federal state or local governments work, and every time someone tries to “Run it like a business” it’s a spectacular failure. See Colorado Springs’ recent history as an example. The Short, Unhappy Life of a Libertarian Paradise And that was a businessman with a MUCH better business track record than Trump. We are talking about a man who lost money owning a freaking gambling casino.
G.) He behaves unethicaly and always has. As a businessman, he constantly left in his wake unpaid contractors and invoices, litigation, broken promises, whatever he could get away with.
H.) He is damaging our relationships with our best international friends while kissing up to nations that do not have our best interests in mind. To his question “Wouldn't’ it be great to have better relations with Russia?” The answer is Yes. But it is RUSSIA who needs to earn that, who must stop doing the things that are damaging to that relationship, or we are simply weaker for it.
I.) He has never seen a shortcut he didn't like, and you can’t take shortcuts in government. “Nuclear Option, Remove the Filibuster, I’ll change the Constitution by Executive Order…Don…what happens when you remove the filibuster and the other side retakes the majority in the Senate? Suddenly want that filibuster back? What happens if you manage to change the Constitution by Executive Order and an Anti-2A President wins the next election?
J.) He behaves and has always behaved as an unabashed racist. Yes, I’ve seen your favorite meme that claims he was never accused of racism before the Democrats…Absolutely false. Donald Trump’s long history of racism, from the 1970s to 2019 See the Central Park 5, the lawsuits and fines resulting from his refusal to lease to black tenants, the 1992 lost appeal trying to overturn penalties for removing black dealers from tables, his remarks to the house native American affairs subcommittee in 1993. The man sees and treats racial groups of people as monoliths.
K.) He is systematically steamrolling regulations specifically designed to keep a disaster like the 2007 subprime mortgage crisis from happening again.
L.) He speaks and acts like a demagogue. He sees the Legislative and Judicial branches of government as inconveniences, blows up at criticism no matter how deserved and actively tries to countermand constitutional processes, not to mention attempts to blackmail and coerce people who are saying negative things about him
M.) His choices for top positions, with the exception of Gen. Mattis, who is a gem, have been horrendous. A secretary of Education without a resume that would get her hired as a small town grammar school principal, A secretary of Energy who didn't know the Department of Energy was responsible for nuclear reserves, an EPA head whose biggest accomplishments to date had been suing the EPA on multiple occasions, an FCC head who while working for Verizon actively lobbied to kill net neutrality, and an Attorney General who thinks pot is “nearly as bad as heroin” and asked Congress for permission to go after legal pot businesses in states where it is legal. (There goes that great Republican States rights rally cry again, right? *Crickets*) An Interim AG after Firing his First AG who’s appointment is probably unconstitutional.
N.) He denies scientific fact. Ever notice that the only people you hear denying climate change are politicians and lobbyists? 99% of actual scientists studying the issue agree that it’s real, man-made and caused by greenhouse gasses. Ever notice that every big disaster movie starts with a bunch of politicians in a room ignoring a scientist's warning?
0.) He does not have the temperament to lead this nation. He is Thin Skinned, childish, and a bully, never mind misogynistic, boorish, rude, and incapable of civil discourse.
P.) He still does not understand that the words he speaks, or tweets, are the official position of 1/3 of the US government, and so does not govern his words. He still thinks when he speaks it’s good ol’ Donald Trump. It’s not. It’s the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. You have probably spread a meme or two around talking about how no president’s every word has ever been dissected before…YES, THEY ALWAYS HAVE. It’s just that every other president in our lifetime has understood the importance of his words and took great care to govern his speech. Trump blurts out whatever comes to his mind then complains when people talk about what a dumb thing that was to say.
Q.) He’s unqualified. If you owned a small business and were looking for someone to manage it, and an unnamed resume came across your desk and you saw 6 bankruptcies, showing a man who had failed to make money running CASINOS, would you hire him? He is a very poor businessman. This is a man it has been estimated would have been worth $10 BILLION more if he’d just taken what his father had given him, invested it in Index Funds and left it alone.
R.) He is President. But he refuses to take a leadership position and understand that he is everyone’s President. Conservatives complain about liberals chanting “Not my President” while Trump himself behaves as if no one but his supporters matter.
S.) He’s a blatant hypocrite. He spent 8 years bitching Obama out for his family trips, or golfing, or any time he took for himself, and what does he do? He was already on his 20th golf outing in APRIL of his 1st year in office. He constantly rants about respect for the military, yet can’t be bothered to attend the 100th anniversary of Armistice Day because of a little rain. (And that excuse about Marine One not being able to fly in the rain is HILARIOUS.)
T.) He’s a misogynist. It's not really ok in this day and age to be a misogynist, but it’s not a huge deal if you’re a private citizen. It’s a pretty big deal if you hate half the people you’re elected to lead. The disdain for women seeps out of his …whatever…. and he just can’t hide it.
U.) Face it. In any other election “Grab Em’ By the Pussy” would have been the end of that candidate’s chances. Back in the 90’s I used to marvel about how Teflon Bill Clinton was. I no longer do. The fact that he managed to slip by on that is as much a statement about how much people hate Hillary Clinton as it is about what is wrong with politics in this country right now.
V.) He has one response to a differing opinion. Attack. A good leader listens to criticism, to different points of view, is capable of self-reflection, tries to guide people to his point of view, and when necessary stands his ground and defends his convictions. Any of that sound like Trump? His default is not to Lead, its’ to attack. Scorched Earth. The Jim Acosta reaction is a good example. There was no defense of his convictions when Acosta was asking him repeated questions about his rhetoric on the caravan. His response was to attack Acosta.
W.) He takes credit for everything positive while deflecting blame for everything negative. Look at him with the Stock Market. He’s been bragging about it since day one, and to give credit where credit is due, speculation on coming deregulation early in his presidency did fuel some rapid growth, but to pretend that it’s all him, that we’re not in the 9th year of the longest bull market in history and THEN, when the standard market volatility that deregulation inevitably brings about starts to show up? Yeah. Look at yesterday. Hey! Stock Markets losing because the Democrats won! Do I need to bring out the Stock market chart for the last 10 Years again?
X.) He emboldens the worst among us. Counter-protesters are slammed into by a car while countering actual Nazi rally, and the response is there’s fault on “Both Sides” The media is at fault for a nut job sending them and Donald’s favorite targets pipe bombs. The truth is not all Republicans, not all Trump Supporters are racist, fascist lunatics. Many are just taken in by the bombastic personality and are living in an information bubble made worse by the fact that they unfollow anyone and ignore any source of information that makes them feel uncomfortable. People on the left do that too. The Biggest problem the right has right now is that the worst of the Right is the loudest and the most in your face, and the actual right, especially the Freaking PRESIDENT needs to be standing up and saying No. Those are not our values.
Y.) He seems to think the Constitution of The United States, the document that IS who we are, the document he took an oath to support and defend is some sort of inconvenience. He demonstrates a complete lack of understanding of Constitution, from believing he can alter the 14th through executive order, to thinking The free exercise clause in the first amendment somehow supersedes the establishment clause (not that he really understands either) or that the free exercise clause only applies to Christians. Or his attacks on freedom of expression and the press. He repeatedly makes it clear that if he’s read them, he does not understand Articles 1–3, and that’s something he really should have before he took the job, because they’re not going away.
Z.) I’ll use Z for something I do blame him for, but the rest of us have to carry the blame too. Polarization. This country is more politically polarized than I can remember in my lifetime. Some of you who are a few years older than I may remember how it was in the late 60’s when construction workers in New York were being applauded for beating up hippies, I think it’s pretty close to that right now, but that was before my time. And he is the cause of much of the current level polarization, but also the result. It didn't’ start with Trump. We’ve been going down this road I think since the eruption of the Tea Party in the early years of the Obama Administration. I do hope the tide turns before it gets much worse because the thing that scares me more than anything is what if that keeps going the way it has been?”
- Chris O’Leary

you can skip that if you like, but

That's something I'll never be able to understand, it's such basic economics to know that when production goes down, scarcity and prices go up. How you can claim that production (pipeline transportation in this case) can go down, and availability and price can stay the same, is beyond me. But I'm experienced enough on far left forums to know that if I try to explore that with you, you'll fly into a rage and immediately say that you didn't claim that at all!!! Then you'll call me a lot of vulgar names, and get a half dozen green dots, including one from Jar the conservative!

you didn't see that Trump made a deal with the Saudis to slow production down? the KXL would have had ZERO effect, Marc. And what would I " immediately say that you didn't claim that at all!!!"??? can you point out this weird aspect for me?

Do you know the route of the Keystone Pipeline? It goes from Canada right to the midwest U.S. and stops. It goes to U.S. refineries.

it goes right over one of the biggest aquifers of clean water in the country, an aquifer that the native americans want to protect. all down to Texas refineries and then gets shipped out over the Gulf of Mexico to the world market, which will mean that the US doesn't see 1 single gallon of gasoline from this environmentally dangerous boondoggle until after the world market sets the price and includes it in the shipping around the world, some of which then returns to the greedy US Oil barons.

You act like these are things we once had, that Republicans have recently taken away.

LOLOL!! no, you dummy - these are goals we should adopt.

These are only very recent Democrat demands, they're not constitutional, and since the national debt is at an all time high, we can't afford them.

jeez, i can remember Medicare For All being a goal for decades, but the Repugnicans never want to spend money on people, just rich donors. The Debt has only improved under Democratic administrations. Liz Warren wants to enact a wealth tax and many want the oligarch billionaires to pay more in taxes than the average school teacher. OF COURSE WE CAN AFFORD THEM, if you fucks would quit spending on the rich billionaires.

You missed one general one that covers it all, communism.

OH NO! you are a Joe McCarthy fan!!! Communism is the same as Fascism - totalitarian. It should be avoided as should Fascism. Why are there Repugnants who openly support Putin? Why do you seem to think the left wants any of this?

No - it is the Republican Party who supports Fascism and Communism.


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marc9000
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Message 290 of 291 (893715)
04-18-2022 8:36 PM
Reply to: Message 289 by xongsmith
04-18-2022 10:29 AM


Re: The Biden Presidency Thus Far
Think again. Everytime they (mostly Republican Governors and state officials) start to relax standards of masking and distancing, the virus comes back. I see that airplanes have backtracked on their premature relaxing of masking and now have returned to requiring masks.

I do keep an eye on things, and may change what I do concerning the vaccine, not because of Republican actions, but because of new highs of illegals pouring over the southern border, some of whom have the virus, and are nowhere near getting the proper screenings. But most people aren't aware of that, the Democrat owned mainstream media has completely shut down any and all reporting about the southern border disaster.

The U.S. founders made lots of references to the importance of free speech and a free press, in many verified quotes and documents, not only in the first amendment.

quote:
As the Virginia Declaration of Rights put it “That the freedom of the press is one of the greatest bulwarks of liberty and can never be restrained but by despotic governments.”

Freedom of the Press in the eyes of the Founding Fathers

The concern of course, was a press that's restrained by the government, something common throughout the world today. But the U.S. today has all the over-the-air press controlled by one despotic political party. 99% as bad, and the greatest danger the U.S. now faces IMO. The only ray of hope is today's all time low in public trust of the mainstream media. Today's technology that allows people to get news from other, uncontrolled sources is a large part of the reason for hope.

marc9000 writes:

I can? "Operation Warp Speed" happened under the Trump administration.

that was just his butt gas. he didn't implement it, just waved his hands at it.

marc9000 writes:

So Biden gets ALL the credit for the development of Covid vaccines?

can't you read? i said IMPLEMENT, not DEVELOP. that was Germany and other foreign sites that developed it.

Let's try it again then. So Biden gets ALL the credit for implementation of Covid vaccines? Here's a hint, Johnson and Johnson, Pfizer are not German or foreign. I have some more links ready if you need them.

You need to get better glasses. Putin regards Trump as a Useful Tool, not something to respect.

His recent invasion of Ukraine, his more prominent control of the oil market, indicates to me that he likes his Biden tool much more than his Trump tool.

well, the fucking Saudis are such a fine group. aren't they responsible for birthing Osama Bin Laden? they have the world by the oily balls and that means the Republican Party and much of the Democrats.

They're so fine that Biden attempted unsuccessfully to communicate with them.

how about this from the right?:

[snip liberal drivel and hate]

So you believe this person represents the majority of the right?

you can skip that if you like, but

I did, most of it, I've seen it all before here, and other socialist sites. But a couple of references;

He denies scientific fact. Ever notice that the only people you hear denying climate change are politicians and lobbyists?

No I haven't noticed that. I've noticed that a LOT of the American public denies it too, because they have a knowledge of world history, of how tyrants use fear to gain power. They have knowledge of how bearers of "scientific fact" get their money and power.

also;

The Jim Acosta reaction is a good example. There was no defense of his convictions when Acosta was asking him repeated questions about his rhetoric on the caravan. His response was to attack Acosta.

So this guy's a conservative Republican, and he loves Jim Acosta? Acosta's rude, repeated badgering him about "the caravan" that Trump completely answered? A caravan that was / is very real that the news media NEVER reports on? At least Trump didn't call Acosta a son-of-a-girl-dog, something that Biden called a Fox reporter on an open mike, a Fox reporter who isn't near as obnoxious as Acosta. The mainstream media gave him a pass of course.

you didn't see that Trump made a deal with the Saudis to slow production down?

No I didn't notice, probably because I didn't see oil price increases. If Trump did that, it was probably because we produced enough of our own oil.

KXL would have had ZERO effect, Marc. And what would I " immediately say that you didn't claim that at all!!!"??? can you point out this weird aspect for me?

I didn't say that you'd say that I didn't claim that at all, you'd say that YOU didn't claim that at all. Let's look at it all again;

quote:
Marc9000; That's something I'll never be able to understand, it's such basic economics to know that when production goes down, scarcity and prices go up. How you can claim that production (pipeline transportation in this case) can go down, and availability and price can stay the same, is beyond me. But I'm experienced enough on far left forums to know that if I try to explore that with you, you'll fly into a rage and immediately say that you didn't claim that at all!!! Then you'll call me a lot of vulgar names, and get a half dozen green dots, including one from Jar the conservative!

You're saying that hindering production / distribution will not affect prices and availability. Most high school students know that it will.

it goes right over one of the biggest aquifers of clean water in the country, an aquifer that the native americans want to protect.

Fox News said the other day that a typical family of four pays $211 more now per month for food than they did a year ago. Tractor-trailers (that deliver food) get around 6 to 7 mpg on diesel fuel. Trucking companies can't immediately recover these increased fuel costs, they did immediately raise them a little, which accounts for a significant part of that $211, but they eventually have to recover it all, trucking doesn't operate on a huge profit margin. Food costs are going to continue to spike, some people realize that, and the emotions of drum-beating nutcases like Nick Sandmans favorite protester don't concern them too much.

all down to Texas refineries and then gets shipped out over the Gulf of Mexico to the world market, which will mean that the US doesn't see 1 single gallon of gasoline from this environmentally dangerous boondoggle until after the world market sets the price and includes it in the shipping around the world, some of which then returns to the greedy US Oil barons.

Do ya think maybe the world market would set the price a little lower if there was more oil? Oil that's cheaper to move that is, it's not that there's all that much more oil, the oil that's supposed to flow through the pipeline still exists, it just has to move by oil guzzling trains and trucks, making the price higher. But the railroads take care of the Big Guy, don't they?

LOLOL!! no, you dummy - these are goals we should adopt.

That's what Castro told the Cuban people in 1959, by 1969 some Cubans were fitting pontoons on 1953 Plymouths to try to float their way to the U.S. to get away from those wonderful goals.

jeez, i can remember Medicare For All being a goal for decades, but the Repugnicans never want to spend money on people, just rich donors. The Debt has only improved under Democratic administrations. Liz Warren wants to enact a wealth tax and many want the oligarch billionaires to pay more in taxes than the average school teacher. OF COURSE WE CAN AFFORD THEM, if you fucks would quit spending on the rich billionaires.

You have no comprehension of the difference between billions, and trillions, do you? Trust me, millionaires and billionaires do not have trillions of dollars.

OH NO! you are a Joe McCarthy fan!!! Communism is the same as Fascism - totalitarian. It should be avoided as should Fascism. Why are there Repugnants who openly support Putin? Why do you seem to think the left wants any of this?

No - it is the Republican Party who supports Fascism and Communism.

Fascism - grow the government.
Communism - grow the government.
2022 U.S. Democrats - grow the government.

AOC says Democrats need to go further LEFT to stand chance in midterms

Again, Biden's approval ratings are currently lower than whale shit. As I said a few messages back, the main reason I bumped this thread, is to see some proposals about what the far left thinks the Democrats should do to avoid Republican gains this November. Do you agree with AOC?


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Message 291 of 291 (893716)
04-18-2022 8:43 PM
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04-18-2022 8:36 PM


Re: The Biden Presidency Thus Far
The only disaster on the southern border are the disasters caused by the Three Stooges up in Austin.

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