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MrIntelligentDesign
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Message 346 of 1197 (893632)
04-17-2022 7:48 PM
Reply to: Message 342 by AZPaul3
04-17-2022 5:25 PM


Before you could explain design or non-design, or intelligent to non-, you must define or differentiate the two. Stop messing science and stop injecting religion in science.
Why are you always talking about religion in scientific discussion?

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Message 347 of 1197 (893633)
04-17-2022 7:52 PM


Now that's funny!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

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Sarah Bellum
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Message 348 of 1197 (893634)
04-17-2022 8:16 PM
Reply to: Message 345 by MrIntelligentDesign
04-17-2022 7:46 PM


I was talking about intelligent design and creationism. Does this mean you consider those to be religious rather than scientific concepts?

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Sarah Bellum
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Message 349 of 1197 (893635)
04-17-2022 8:19 PM
Reply to: Message 340 by WookieeB
04-17-2022 5:15 PM


So explain why you think I'm wrong. Do you think that complex structures can develop without an intelligent builder being somehow involved?

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AZPaul3
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Message 350 of 1197 (893636)
04-17-2022 8:19 PM
Reply to: Message 343 by MrIntelligentDesign
04-17-2022 7:44 PM


Re: Bump: No Help. Let's Try Again
I had already explained this in details in my OP as linked.
That is exactly the problem. Your write-ups are indecipherable. The syntax is obtuse and confusing. Your OP links are no information at all.
What you are admitting, here, MrID, is you do not understand your own speculations well enough to explain them in this setting, to us, the ones you came to for accolades.
If you can't/won't explain then you have nothing to offer.
Why are you always talking about religion in scientific discussion?
Because your goal is to prove god.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Sarah Bellum
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Message 351 of 1197 (893637)
04-17-2022 8:25 PM
Reply to: Message 334 by dwise1
04-17-2022 12:58 PM


On the other hand, all this stuff about a First Cause doesn't get to the heart of the issue of evolution. Do living organisms reproduce by the usual methods (giving birth, laying eggs that hatch, releasing spores that land and grow, etc. etc. etc.)? Have they done so throughout the history of the planet?
If so, then regardless of whatever First Cause got things started a dozen or so billion years ago, all the living organisms today are descended from an earlier generation which is descended from an earlier generation and so on and so on for millions of years. Since what we see around us is different from what was there a million or ten million or a hundred million years ago, living organisms must have evolved.

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AZPaul3
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Message 352 of 1197 (893638)
04-17-2022 8:34 PM
Reply to: Message 346 by MrIntelligentDesign
04-17-2022 7:48 PM


Before you could explain design or non-design, or intelligent to non-, you must define or differentiate the two.
And you have a most powerful alternative for all human knowledge but you can't tell us what it is or how it works. You are not one we will accept definitions from for any concepts, scientific or otherwise.
Why are you always talking about religion in scientific discussion?
Because your goal with this ID crap is to prove god.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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MrIntelligentDesign
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Message 353 of 1197 (893639)
04-17-2022 8:44 PM
Reply to: Message 349 by Sarah Bellum
04-17-2022 8:19 PM


You are wrong because you have no clue on the topic of intelligence and non-intelligence.
Stop that religious practice. Do real science.
Why Evolution Is Wrong In Biology And What is Right? | Zenodo

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MrIntelligentDesign
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Message 354 of 1197 (893640)
04-17-2022 8:45 PM
Reply to: Message 351 by Sarah Bellum
04-17-2022 8:25 PM


There is no evolution since evolution uses non-intelligence.
You cannot use non-intelligence in biological world, for if you do, all living organisms will die after birth...
Stop religious explanation in science.
Why Evolution Is Wrong In Biology And What is Right? | Zenodo

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MrIntelligentDesign
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Message 355 of 1197 (893641)
04-17-2022 8:47 PM
Reply to: Message 350 by AZPaul3
04-17-2022 8:19 PM


Re: Bump: No Help. Let's Try Again
Why do not rediscover intelligence, write it and submit to science journals, and come back here?
Stop injecting religion in science.

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AZPaul3
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Message 356 of 1197 (893642)
04-17-2022 9:03 PM
Reply to: Message 355 by MrIntelligentDesign
04-17-2022 8:47 PM


Re: Bump: No Help. Let's Try Again
Why do not rediscover intelligence, write it and submit to science journals, and come back here?
Why would I need to rediscover something already well known to us?
You're the one with the new ID2.0 that's supposed to explain so much, yet you can't even explain what this ID2.0 is or how it works.
I am comfortable with the definitions we already have.
Stop injecting religion in science.
Stop trying to injecting your religiously motivated ID2.0 into a secular reality. You are wasting your time. No one is listening to you, especially since you can't seem to explain anything.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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MrIntelligentDesign
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Message 357 of 1197 (893643)
04-17-2022 9:17 PM
Reply to: Message 356 by AZPaul3
04-17-2022 9:03 PM


Re: Bump: No Help. Let's Try Again
You are concluding that there is no intelligence in reality, that is a religion if you cannot show it.
Stop injecting religion in science.
Now, you cannot simply claim something if you cannot show it, especially in the topic of intelligence.
Again, stop religion in science.

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jar
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Message 358 of 1197 (893644)
04-17-2022 9:18 PM
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04-17-2022 9:03 PM


Re: Bump: No Help. Let's Try Again
And it's even past any possible humorous worth.
It's just boring.

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Sarah Bellum
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Message 359 of 1197 (893645)
04-17-2022 9:52 PM
Reply to: Message 353 by MrIntelligentDesign
04-17-2022 8:44 PM


If you think I am wrong, you are free to give your reasons.

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Sarah Bellum
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Message 360 of 1197 (893646)
04-17-2022 9:57 PM
Reply to: Message 354 by MrIntelligentDesign
04-17-2022 8:45 PM


Seems to me that plenty of living organisms do pretty well without intelligence. Just ask any tree.

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