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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Percy, you make a good point. However, I do
read the replies. Perhaps, it isn't fair, and I don't mean it that way.But, you need to u/s that because someone hasn't replied doesn't mean that they have dismissed your side of the argument. I am still involved with a good deal of stuff, and Ican't just ignore everything else. Perhaps, I am wrong to post at all since I can't seemto find the time required to address everyone.
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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
NWR, all books are written by humans, even the ones
that only make idiotic assumptions and guesses about the source of life. At least the authors of the Holy Bible received theirknowledge straight from the Creator.
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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Percy, I don't ignore what people say. However, there is
no need to reply to assumptions. I deal only in facts. Never in recorded history has one kind of animal evolvedinto another kind of animal--whether it was by punctuated equilibrium, or slowly over eons. I know that some kinds, because of isolation or mutationslose the ability to procreate with others of the same kind, but they are still of the same kind. They have never been observed to become anything else. True evolution would for example be a cat evolving into adog. You don't have this. I give observable examples of how polystrata fossilscome to be. And, evolutionists reject the crystal clear evidence in favors of how it might have happened. The eruption at MSH led to the formation of numerouslevels of strata, over forty feet high, in just a matter of days. Years ago one could by these cubes at Walmart thatcontained water and sand of different size and color. one could shake the cube and mix up the sand. When the sand was allowed to settle it always sorted the sand by weight and size, just like the water in a global flood did. Observable science. A global flood is the best explanation of how great heapsof fossils were deposited. I am the only person here posting my side of the issue.And, I do have some time to post here. However, it is limited. I will have the cataract removed from my other eyetomorrow. It will take several days to heal. But, I will address your statements after that. I will read all your posts and reply to them. Trust me.
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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Dwise, you keep saying that I have the concept of
evolution wrong. Regardless of how I state it you and the other keep saying no; that is not how it happened. I want you to state step-by-step how it has unfoldedover the billions of years. I would also like for you to list your absolute proofs. If you cannot provide proof, please state that it an assumption. You seem to be the most deceived among theevolutionists on this board. However, I want to know exactly how it came about, and how you know for a fact that this is how it has played out. If you think it came about by theistic evolution,please say so. If you think that life came about by, for instance, chemical reactions, then you also need to explain the evolution of chemicals. There is no need for me to make assumptionsabout how the evolutionists believe it came about. Once I know I will stick to that guideline. When you and the other evolutionists say that youknow for a fact that evolution is true, I then want to ask: Do you know all that there is to know about the universe?Do you know 50% of all there is to know? How about 25%, or 10%. I think it is safe to say that humans know less than 1% of all there is to know about the universe. Since we know so little, how can we possbly knowwhat happened 4.5 billion years ago, or 1 billion years ago, or 100 million years ago, or even 10,000 years ago? My opthamologist advised me to refrain from staringat a lighted screen for extended periods, especially for the next two weeks, but I would like to read your reply.
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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Percy, you and several others have asked for proof
that God (currently consisting of the Father and Jesus). I cannot provide you with absolute proof, especially ifyou refuse to even consider it. However, God can provide convincing proof, and to meundeniable proof, that He exists. Until I see my opthologist again this coming Monday, Iwill make short abbreviated posts. Listen, l've never made fun of anyone's health issues in my life. First, God is not trying to save all humans during thispresent age. More than 99% of those who call themselves Christians don't understand this. Jesus taught in parables, and most assume that thiswas to make His teachings clearer. But, in fact, the exact opposite was true. Mark 4:11-12 And He said unto them, "unto you it isgiven to know the mystery of the Kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables:" "That seeing they may see, and not perceive; andhearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them." Read also Matthew 13: 13-15. & Luke 8:10. Jesus says in John 6:44 that no one could cometo Him, except the Father draws him. He restated this in verse 65. Paul states in Romans 8: 29-30 that some arepredestination to conform to God's image. The predestinated ones are only the firstfruits.The firstfruits are called out down through the ages and offered a position in God's Kingdom when Christ returns to earth and establishes it. Predestinated simply means limited in advance. Everyone brought up in the second Resurrectionwill be told that they deserve the death penalty, but that Christ paid that penalty for them. Notice that those in the second resurrection(Rev.20) are brought back as flesh and blood humans. Also notice that this is to be a judgment, not a sentencing. These Individuals will be given God's Holy Spirit,and taught brought Christ and the firstfruits, who at that time are members of the God family. All who ever lived (except the firstfruits and thosewho will be raised in the third resurrection) will be raised up in the second resurrection. Those in the third resurrection will consist of thetruly evil; those who devoted their lives to Satan and his cause; and, those who God called during this present age, but they willfully refused His calling. This might not seem like I am offering proof forthe existence of God. But, I hope it will all tie in. I will continue in a few hours.
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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Percy, before Adam was created Lucifer, who God later
called Satan, was placed on the unfinished earth to put the finishing touches to it--much like putting the finishing touches to a piece of furniture. A third of the angel were put under his command. But,Satan, because of his great beauty and false pride, rebelled. He thought that he should sit at the left hand of God and rule the universe as a trinity. God had placed Satan the ruler of earth, and the angels,who later became demons, were subordinate to him. Satan and his horde battled against the loyal angels ofGod, who were led by the archangel Michael. The solar system, and perhaps the entire universe, bear the scars of this titanic battle. Satan was defeated and cast back down to the earth.However, he was still the ruler on the earth. God keeps some reign over him, but he is still the God of this world/age. Adam was created to replace Satan, but he failed toqualify for the position. Both he and Eve were deceived by Satan, and they questioned whether God or they themselves knew the way to true happiness. The fall of Adam, which brought sin and death into theworld, left Satan as earth's ruler. God foreknew that Adam would sin, and bringdeath to all his offspring. The Word knew that one day He would be born of a woman and give His life as a ransom for us all. Adam made the wrong choice because he did not knowway of life was best. One way exemplified by Satan is the way of "get." God's way is the way of "give." One way consisted of greed, competition, and get aheadat all cost. The other is one of love, sharing, and genuine concern for his fellow man. God intends for all humans to experience both ways.This is the only way that we can make an Informed choice. The world has suffered greatly under Satan's rule. Itgets so bad that (Matthew 24) if Christ delayed His return that no life on earth would be left alive. God will then show us His way of life. He will be verypatient with us. He loves us dearly, and it breaks His heart to see what we do to ourselves, but He had to let it run its course. 2Cor. 4:4 states that Satan is the God of thisworld/present age. Eph. 2:2 states that he is the prince of the power ofthe air. He controls Hollywood; the music industry; and, earth's rulers. Rev. 12:9 tells us that he deceives the whole world.Only God can prevent one from this. Actors; musicians; world rulers; high men of industryhave all sold their soul (present life) to Satan and his cause in order to achieve fame, power, and wealth. Satan uses these people to influence and polute theminds of others, especially the young. I have seen hundreds of stars, etc..., admit to havingsold their souls to Satan in order to get what their hearts most desired. He also controls our institutions of learning. Ourschools and universities forbid the teaching of God and His laws. They do not allow one to teach that we were created in His image. They teach, without any evidence whatsoever, thatwe are creatures of chance; that we are nothing more than animals. There is no wonder that we kill each other so easily.Babies, who are in their mother's womb, are ripped apart by doctors without an ounce of remorse. In California (bill 2223) says that if a baby dieswithin thirty days after being born that the mother Will not be charged. They deny this, but read the bill. In several states it is permissible to kill a human baby as it is being born. Only God can provide absolute proof that He is ourCreator. He can convince an individual beyond a shadow of a doubt that He exists. Jeremiah 29:13 You will seek me and find me,when you search for me with all your heart. Hebrews 11:6 But without faith it is impossibleto please Him: forhe that cometh to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarded of them that diligently seek Him. God has precestinated some. However, He willnever turn away those who desperately want and look for Him.
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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
AZPaul3:
I don't know anything about this video game. However,I have stated in an earlier post that the angels, including Lucifer, were filled with joy when the world was originally created. I have no idea how long Satan had existed before Adamwas created. The Bible is silent concerning this. What I do know is that Lucifer was the most powerfulbeing that God can create by fiat. Just the fact that he thought he could war against God tells us that he is a truly powerful being. Although those who will be born into the God family will be much more powerful than Satan could ever be.
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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Tanyptery:
Perhaps I worded that wrong. I have seen them admit tothis on social media. If you really want to see the evidence do the research on YouTube. These people accepted Satan as their God in exchangefor power, wealth, and fame. Famous magicians make deals with demon in whichthe demon assists them with their magic, but after death the magician must become their slave. Some of these magical acts are impossible to dowithout assistance from the Spirit world. Thousands of posters that famous magicians havehad printed up clearly shows demons whispering in their ears, or sitting on their shoulders. What they don't know is that after they die they arecompletely unconscious until the resurrection. Which for them will be the third resurrection. Those in the third resurrection will automatically be sentenced to eternal death. Demons know what their final outcome will be. Theywant to take as many humans with them as they can. Do an in depth research of famous personalities whohave sold their soul (life) to Satan and you see that the number who have done so grows and grows. These people know that Satan exists. His high rankingdemons literally possess those who control the means of reaching fame and fortune. I dare you to do the research. Take your time and doit right. Perhaps, your eyes will then begin to open.
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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Percy, you still haven't offered one thing that
supports evolution. In fairness, I looked over your post. I keep looking for hard core evidence, but what I find is nothing but assumptions. True science cannot be built on assumptions.There is not one thing connected to evolution that is connected to real science. Evolution is a fantasy land, consisting ofPerhaps; maybe; it is likely; there's a good possibility; etc.... Life doesn't come from non-life. It has neverbeen shown that it does. And, you know this. Stop pretending that you don't know this.
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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Jar, thank you for finally admitting that life
was created by an intelligent Being. That same being also created the material thatHe created life from. Imagine that some people actually believe thateverything in the universe existed in a tiny dot, much smaller than the period of this sentence. They are gullible enough to believe this. And thenThey want people with common sense to take them seriously.
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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Dwise (post 198), don't play dumb. When you talk of
evolution you believe in the "leached from a rock organism" to every animal/organism alive today. Isolation has nothing to do with this. Every concepts that evolutionists have invented aremethodically being destroyed by the truth. Remember when wide-eyed evolutionists struttedaround acting stupid by pretending that vestigial organs proved evolution? The coccyx, appendix, body hair, tonsils, wisdom teeth, ete..,they screamed, serve no purpose. These organs are now useless, and are evolving away. If these organs serve no purpose then why doevolutionists say they evolved in the first place? The fact is that all these organs were designedfor specific purposes. I won't tell you what these purposes are unlessyou ask. I want to see if you are really ignorant of these design purposes. These same evolutionists ranted and raved aboutVO in animals: such as flightless birds, and whales pelvis bones. And again, I won't tell you their respective designpurposes unless you admit that you just can't figure them out--that their usage is above your intelligence level. Remember how Darwin and his blind followersswore to high heaven that transitional fossils would eventually be found, and that these fossils would prove their weak hypothesis of evolution true? Man! The joke is on them. Can you say Duh? Oh yeah. In the year 2001, the 101 biology textbooksat Murray State (and numerous other places)were still using Hackel's fraudulent embryos illustration. Talk about dishonesty. Isn't it ludicrous to think that homologous structuresare more indictive of common descent than they are of a common designer? Why would blind and random evolution lead toImprovement? There is not a law that says this is a requirement. There is not one law in nature that states complex organs can be constructed little by little; generation after generation. One can believe this if one wishes to do so. But,I would rather stick with real science.
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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Ringo, you say that science doesn't deal in proofs.
It deals in evidence. Well, courts of law also deal in evidence, but theyare oftentimes wrong. Proof can prove or disprove something beyond ashadow of a doubt. Evidence alone cannot do this. Evidence is opento Interpretation. And one's interpretation is almost always slanted by presuppositions.
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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Percy, I have already stated what a "Biblical kind" is
Did you ever hear of Hilda, Alberta? There is an area there that is roughly 14 mileslong that is bulging with fossils of over 55 species, consisting of dinosaurs, clams, fish, and many mammals. As far as the eye can see there are fossils.More than 400 skeletons have been uncovered. Many of those who work on the excavation ofthese fossils claim that it still has the "stench of death." Imagine that. The big bad evvolution experts insist that the RedRiver was inundated by a "monster storm" that flooded inland for tens of miles. The flooding, they insist, drowned these thousandsof animals, and quickly covered them with mud; thereby, preserving the fossils. There is an area that stretches from Texas toMontana (1000 miles wide by 1800 miles long, and encompassing 14 states) that contains thousands of fossils. Tissue samples from the numerous sites showthat these animals died just a few thousand years ago, and not tens of millions. The site in Hilda is said to have been caused by a"monster storm," that was geographically isolated. The large site in America isn't treated with thesame degree of common sense, even though the best explanation is a "global flood." If evolutionists admits to Noah's global flood, it wouldbe suicide for them. They would rather be willfully ignorant than admitthe plain truth that is right in front of them.
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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Tanyptery, you don't fool me. You are checking into
the the subject of celebrities selling their souls. Not even a third grader would require a moreadvanced individual do this for them. Schools and universities are warping the minds ofmany in America, and the world. Lying professors have convinced those who areeasily fooled that evolution accounts for all life on earth, even it's origin. These lying teachers and professors have nowconvinced the weak willed that a man can become a woman and that a woman can become a man. On many campuses Tampax machines have beeninstalled in men's room. Some of these idiots are now convinced that men can get pregnant. Ask one in the Biden's administration to defineA woman and they can't/won't do it. People say that Satan doesn't exist; yet, theypay homage to him everyday. I don't care if you do your own research or not.If you feel safe in your current view of the world, then by all means don't do anything that might enlighten you.
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