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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8654 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 6.7
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https://phys.org/news/2022-04-webb-temperature.html
JWST is in position and is almost ready for real work. The almost part is the final temperature and alignment of the mirrors. JWST sees in the infrared spectrum for science reasons. To keep the scope itself from emitting excess infrared signals JWST needs to be very cold. All the instruments and optics have been brought to their operating temperature. MIRI, the mid-range infrared detector, the major capability the JWST was built to see, has been cooled to under 7 K. But the mirrors are still too hot. One of JWST's goals is to capture the light that was emitted in the very early universe, 13.8 billion years ago. That light has stretched so far into the infrared that the heat emitted by the instrument itself will overwhelm the desired signal if not cooled down enough.
quote: Beryllium, from which the mirrors are made, cools very slowly. Photons need to be shed by passive means alone. The last few kelvin bleeding off the mirrors will take a few more weeks to come down to optimal temperature. Patience, grasshopper. Almost there. Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given. Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned! |
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jar Member (Idle past 96 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined:
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The LHC is back online and all set to bust some dangling participles or something.
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4597 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 9.2
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I just read about a guy who discovered unauthorized copies of his webpages about extreme macro photography were being posted in mainland China, so he added a Taiwanese flag to the last line of his pages. There is something satisfying imagining the cyber thief receiving poetic justice.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned! What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq |
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4597 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 9.2 |
I have rolled fewer joints than I can count on two hands and one shoe off. Friends did the honors. Joints always seemed wasteful to me. I tried lots of different glass and brass pipes though.
I load them one sativa one indica. OK, is indica for sleep or do you alternate to capitalize on the characters of each?
No vacuum pumps, chambers, solvents, glassware, gas chromatographs or any other type of advanced lab equipment. I’m thinking you guys are having more fun with this than I am. The closer you can make it resemble a mad scientist's lab the more fun it is!
And, Tany, your bug populations are crashing the world over. I knew about the north american crash of bugs and birds but hadn't seen the global stuff. This is bad. Yes it is and it's happening so swiftly that we are having problems getting any kind of accurate baselines to compare population densities with. Museum collections, while a wonderful resource, don't really give us a feeling for population densities. One of the consequences of climate change that has only recently started to be appreciated is that insects and their host plants are getting out of synchronization and we're seeing the same thing happen with birds nesting times and insects life stages getting out of synch. A nuclear war or a runaway greenhouse could possibly wipe out the insects, but I can't imagine our extinction would have an impact beyond the decline in vast landscapes of a few dozen crop plants.Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned! What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8654 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 6.7
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As heat continues to bleed off the scope the instruments and adjustments are in the final stages of test and alignment. This article gives us an idea of the complexity of the instruments and the sensitivity of their readings.
Examining the heart of Webb: The final phase of commissioning
"The astrometric calibration of each instrument maps the pixels on the detectors to the precise locations on the sky, to correct the small but unavoidable optical distortions that are present in every optical system. We do this by observing the Webb astrometric field, a small patch of sky in a nearby galaxy, the Large Magellanic Cloud. This field was observed by the Hubble Space Telescope to establish the coordinates of about 200,000 stars to an accuracy of 1 milli-arcsec (less than 0.3 millionths of a degree). Calibrating this distortion is required to precisely place the science targets on the instruments' field of view. For example, to get the spectra of a hundred galaxies simultaneously using the NIRSpec microshutter assembly, the telescope must be pointed so that each galaxy is in the proper shutter, and there are a quarter of a million shutters! And this is an example of just one of JWST's capabilities. The details of the commissioning are as fascinating as they are complex. JWST is much more highly complex than most people realize. It's not just a swiss army knife unfolding in space, it is more a fine swiss watch with 20 stems on it for ultrafine adjustments. The promise of detailed knowledge from this thing is staggering.Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned! |
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xongsmith Member Posts: 2620 From: massachusetts US Joined:
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an awesome video of Phobos crossing the sun from Mars' point of view (Perseverance).
https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap220509.html those dudes at the JPL are so on the ball!Edited by xongsmith, : spell that with 2 r's, not 3. okay, thrart then
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8654 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 6.7
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Ha! My moon is bigger than your moon. Take that god of war!
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xongsmith Member Posts: 2620 From: massachusetts US Joined:
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I mean, imagine planning to have Perseverance in the annular eclipse path before you even launch it! Wow to JPL.
I'm gonna have enough trouble getting to upstate NY, west coast of Lake Champlain in 2024 to see the Total there unless I can get my son to drive me and he is free on that date, April 8th, 2024 around 3:20pm. I have never seen a Total. Lots of Partials with the pinhole in the long box onto a sheet of paper, but never in my 76 years (it would be 78 then) a Total. Info says it's cloudy 70% of the time under the maximum line. Wrong! It's 100% raining if I'm there and a gorgeous clear sunny day if I'm not.Edited by xongsmith, : change sea to see: too many Xong game Sea Snakes in my mind these days Edited by xongsmith, : WELL EXCUSE ME! it's spelled perseverance, not perserverance...
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4597 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 9.2
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Meet Sagittarius A* – Astronomers Reveal First Image of the Black Hole at the Heart of the Milky Way
quote: quote: Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned! What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq |
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4597 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 9.2
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A nice article describing Webb's instruments and what sorts of targets each will look at, written by Jonathan Gardner, Webb deputy senior project scientist, NASA’s Goddard Space Flight Center.
Seventeen Modes to Discovery: Webb Space Telescope’s Final Commissioning Activities There are 17 different instruments modes. This observatory is going to do a shitload more than just take pretty pictures!!!
quote There is also an amazing diagram showing the light paths to the various instruments.
quote Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned! What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq |
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jar Member (Idle past 96 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined:
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It's Brooks Robinson's birthday.
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4597 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 9.2 |
42 years ago, I remember that day vividly. I was at a nearby creek marking specimens of the dragonfly species Epitheca canis for a male territoriality study. I heard or felt thudding, like distant thunder, but had no idea what had happened. We are about 80 airmiles from the mountain. When I got home later in the afternoon my wife was glued to the TV and they were showing recorded videos and live feeds. It was amazing to see helicopter images of a pickup covered in ash with dead bodies in the bed. The stories and photography were amazing. People in Spokane had a couple feet of ash on the ground and no sign when it would stop. They were lucky it was a small eruption. There are places in central Oregon where the pumice deposits from Mt. Mazama are more than 100 feet thick.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned! What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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ringo Member (Idle past 669 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Tanypteryx writes:
I was in Montana that day. They told us the visibility was so bad in Missoula that police were stopping traffic. Mt. St. Helens May 18, 198042 years ago, I remember that day vividly. I live about 850 mi ENE of Mt. St. Helens and we were told not to wash our cars because trying to remove the fine ash would ruin the finish."I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!" -- Lucky Ned Pepper
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4597 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 9.2
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A new type of fossil may correct some misunderstandings of past climate and geological history.
Scientists Discover “Ghost” Fossils – “Completely Unexpected” quote Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned! What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq |
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8654 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 6.7
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NASA says JWST will release its first full spectrum pics on July 12. These are still test pics, and the buzz is these are going to be exceptional, but this is the last of them. Everything after that is for the science.
And it's been hit by a small boulder. Everyone says that is minor and not unexpected and they even call it a micrometeoroid. It's a damn boulder. Ok, they are the smart guys, but the scope hasn't been up there all that long and it's already got a ding? That probability spread seems a little front loaded to me. This thing is supposed to last forever, give or take 15 years. That is the existential dread I fear most for this scope and I cringe everytime I think of it. James Webb Space Telescope suffers 1st noticeable micrometeoroid impact just months into flightStop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned! |
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