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Dan Carroll
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Message 196 of 265 (90002)
03-03-2004 9:34 AM


Oops, did I say "a couple pages back?"
Checking up, it seems it started on page 5.
He finally begins his response on page 7.

"Perhaps you should take your furs and your literal interpretations to the other side of the river."
-Anya

  
Mammuthus
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Message 197 of 265 (90015)
03-03-2004 10:29 AM
Reply to: Message 195 by Dan Carroll
03-03-2004 9:21 AM


quote:
After ignoring my responses for ages, he finally established that he what he means is that creationists promote these things when it comes to promoting creationism, and not at other times.
heh heh, I would have figured our resident guy who thinks RIF stands for reading is foolish, would have claimed you never asked him and when pressed claim that he does not have time to be an intellectual.
If you bonked DT over the head with a stone, smothered him with a chloroform soaked rag, buried him under 100 meters of dirt, he would still post more informative, well thought, and interesting posts than Syamsu....and this is who Moose wants to protect?

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Syamsu 
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Message 198 of 265 (90174)
03-03-2004 11:18 PM
Reply to: Message 194 by Mammuthus
03-03-2004 8:28 AM


Obviously the link and quote go to argue that the study of ecology is underdeveloped because of Darwinism, like I say it is. The quote says ecology was neglected by Darwinists.
You and Dan have produced nothing worthwile at all in this thread, and now you are pedanticly insulted cause I don't answer your lurid vitriol or halfbaked satire.
regards,
Mohammad Nor Syamsu
[This message has been edited by Syamsu, 03-03-2004]

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Mammuthus
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Message 199 of 265 (90191)
03-04-2004 3:04 AM
Reply to: Message 198 by Syamsu
03-03-2004 11:18 PM


quote:
and now you are pedanticly insulted cause I don't answer your lurid vitriol or halfbaked satire.
Oh, so that is what they call "questions" in Nganjuk...it must be a very lonely place.

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Syamsu 
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Message 200 of 265 (90194)
03-04-2004 3:33 AM
Reply to: Message 199 by Mammuthus
03-04-2004 3:04 AM


Where's the reference to an appraissal saying the study of how organism relate to another in biosystems, or the study of extinction, is well developed?
I see that when you lose an argument you simply ignore it and move on to the next point. All this fuss before about how well developed the study of ecology was, but now I give some references to appraissals saying the opposite, and not a peep about it.
regards,
Mohammad Nor Syamsu

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mark24
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Message 201 of 265 (90196)
03-04-2004 4:44 AM
Reply to: Message 200 by Syamsu
03-04-2004 3:33 AM


Syamsu,
Maybe, just maybe, you should look at the wealth of work & literature rather than taking a subjective quote as absolute fact & ignoring all references to the contrary?
Mark

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Mammuthus
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Message 202 of 265 (90197)
03-04-2004 5:16 AM
Reply to: Message 200 by Syamsu
03-04-2004 3:33 AM


You have been given dozens of references that contradict what you have said. You have not read ANY OF THEM. You have thus lost the argument by being a willfully stupid ass. You might consider removing your head from your rectum and actually beginning to debate in good faith, not a strong point among creationists.

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Syamsu 
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Message 203 of 265 (90208)
03-04-2004 7:03 AM
Reply to: Message 202 by Mammuthus
03-04-2004 5:16 AM


Mammuthus:
"You have been given dozens of references that contradict what you have said."
You have randomly referenced about a dozen science papers, obviously this falls well short of an appraissal, and doesn't meaningfully contradict what I said.
The sickening talk about rectum, ass etc. has to stop, you are going way overboard with your foul mouth.
regards,
Mohammad Nor Syamsu

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Mammuthus
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Message 204 of 265 (90234)
03-04-2004 8:34 AM
Reply to: Message 203 by Syamsu
03-04-2004 7:03 AM


quote:
You have randomly referenced about a dozen science papers, obviously this falls well short of an appraissal, and doesn't meaningfully contradict what I said.
And every one of the articles refutes what you said..but how would you know? You never read them. I referenced two specific books and Quetzal many more...but how would you know? You never read them. You don't know if anything we cited supports or invalidates your assertions.
quote:
The sickening talk about rectum, ass etc. has to stop, you are going way overboard with your foul mouth.
Not as overboard as you have gone with your willful ignorance and bad faith debating...I'll stop telling you to pull your head out of your butt when you actually get off your lazy rump, inform yourself on the subjects being debated, and back up your assertions or retract them for lack of support. You assertions made out of ignorance is what has to stop...you have the foulest mouth of all..you are the shame of Nganjuk.

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Syamsu 
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Message 205 of 265 (90240)
03-04-2004 9:00 AM
Reply to: Message 204 by Mammuthus
03-04-2004 8:34 AM


If somebody had argued the same kind of thing about gravity theory as I have about Darwinism, I would have a good laugh about it, and then dismissed it outright.
That you resort to tricks like piling paperwork on me (a common trick of lawyers), and that you resort to insult, is a sign that unlike with gravity theory, a credible case can be made about the demerits of Darwinism. Obviously if you found some appraissals of ecology or extinction that support your position you would have posted it, but you can't find them........
Again your vitriol has to stop it's gone far enough already. This might have been different if I hadn't provided references for the demerits of Darwinism, but I have, so it's completely unwarranted.
regards,
Mohammad Nor Syamsu

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Dan Carroll
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Message 206 of 265 (90242)
03-04-2004 9:09 AM
Reply to: Message 198 by Syamsu
03-03-2004 11:18 PM


quote:
You and Dan have produced nothing worthwile at all in this thread, and now you are pedanticly insulted cause I don't answer your lurid vitriol or halfbaked satire.
Oh heck, I can get way more lurid than this.
Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go fight the good fight against heliocentric ideology.

"Perhaps you should take your furs and your literal interpretations to the other side of the river."
-Anya

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Mammuthus
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Message 207 of 265 (90250)
03-04-2004 9:38 AM
Reply to: Message 205 by Syamsu
03-04-2004 9:00 AM


quote:
If somebody had argued the same kind of thing about gravity theory as I have about Darwinism, I would have a good laugh about it, and then dismissed it outright.
so your saying that if you argued about gravity as stupidly as you argue about Darwinism we can laugh at you...thanks but we beat you to the punch...what a knucklehead
quote:
That you resort to tricks like piling paperwork on me (a common trick of lawyers),
That you resort to tricks like willfully ignoring the mountains of literature on the subject you are debating (a common creationist trick) is a sign that you have no case...
By the way, please describe the theory of gravity, the evidence that supports it, and how the conclusions were derived. After all, since you are comparing it with your self proclaimed familiarity with Darwin's writings I am sure you would be willing to regail us with the extensive research you have done on the theory of gravity.
quote:
Again your vitriol has to stop it's gone far enough already. This might have been different if I hadn't provided references for the demerits of Darwinism, but I have, so it's completely unwarranted.
You have provided nothing. You have only refused to read anything that could either support or refute your arguemnts. Your link was not evidence but a badly translated and out of date list of opinions. Until you read a single piece of primary literature or any of the basic textbooks which are used to train scientists in evolution and ecology (some of which Queztal and I have referenced for you since you are too much of a lazy ass to find them yourself) I will continue to insist that you pull your head out of your butt and do some work. If as you admitted yourself, you lack the ability to be an "intellectual" (understatement of the century)...then you should shut the hell up. Otherwise go inform yourself and debate in good faith from an informed position.

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MrHambre
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Message 208 of 265 (90253)
03-04-2004 9:53 AM


The Numbers So Far
Concerning Darwnist (sic) Ideology, it seems casting pearls unto swine is the linchpin of the controversial philosophy. I've tallied the direct responses Syamsu has received on this thread alone from EVC members since we all wrote him off as a waste of time back on page 3.
Mammuthus: 22
Dan Carroll: 15
mark24: 15
Quetzal: 13
Brad McFall: 4
MrJack: 4
holmes: 2
Loudmouth: 2
Primordial Egg: 1
berberry: 0
MrHambre: 0
Truthlover: 0
regards,
Esteban "Bean Counter" Hambre

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Syamsu 
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Message 209 of 265 (90259)
03-04-2004 10:48 AM
Reply to: Message 208 by MrHambre
03-04-2004 9:53 AM


Re: The Numbers So Far
Yeah past 200 already, so the thread will be closed soon. This could have developed into a thread talking about Darwinist ideology in books and movies, the relationship of the theory to Darwinist ideologies, and ideological prejudices in the theory. Interesting subjects IMO, which aren't discussed elsewhere on the forum. The reason you all keep on posting your meaningless posts is to surpress this discussion, because we all know that a discussion like that would reflect very badly on Darwinism indeed.
It is entirely credible that many people will use Dawkins observations in the Selfish Gene as the basis for their belief system, and because it's so credible you have to mess up the discussion in stead of just being able to dismiss it as the ranting of a loon.
regards,
Mohammad Nor Syamsu

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Mammuthus
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Message 210 of 265 (90268)
03-04-2004 11:44 AM
Reply to: Message 209 by Syamsu
03-04-2004 10:48 AM


Re: The Numbers So Far
Hey Mr. Hambre..here comes response 23.
quote:
Interesting subjects IMO, which aren't discussed elsewhere on the forum
Yes, interesting subjects that you were completely unprepared to debate...even unwilling to read about even though you started the thread.
quote:
and because it's so credible you have to mess up the discussion in stead of just being able to dismiss it as the ranting of a loon.
If we did not talk to you, nobody would.

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