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Author | Topic: Rebuttal To Creationists - "Since We Can't Directly Observe Evolution..." | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
ringo Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Kleinman writes:
Have you ever thought about responding with the correct explanation of how A → B and A → C are different from B → C? Have you ever thought about responding with the correct explanation of how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail?Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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ringo Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Kleinman writes:
We can have them contact you at "Department of Medicine, USA".
why don't you file a complaint with the medical or engineering board? Kleinman writes:
Do you really think a monkey was on trial? We can redo the Scopes monkey trial where you are the monkey.Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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Kleinman Member (Idle past 356 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: |
Kleinman:Oh my. Another poster to EvC that doesn't know how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail. To try and cures his ignorance, for a single selection pressure: The basic science and mathematics of random mutation and natural selection And for two or more simultaneous selection pressures: The mathematics of random mutation and natural selection for multiple simultaneous selection pressures and the evolution of antimicrobial drug resistance I doubt this will help because his education is limited to comic books.
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Kleinman Member (Idle past 356 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: |
Kleinman:ringo reads papers that don't exist. That's why he won't post them. If ringo could read, he would post the following papers that explain how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail. For a single selection pressure: The basic science and mathematics of random mutation and natural selection And for two or more multiple simultaneous selection pressures: The mathematics of random mutation and natural selection for multiple simultaneous selection pressures and the evolution of antimicrobial drug resistance See how easy it is ringo and you are so wrongo. Ask your horse, he has more sense than you have. Message 2386 Kleinman:Sure have cowpoke, read the above papers and find out how it works. Of course, your horse knows more math than you do. You will have to ask him to explain it to you. Message 2387 Kleinman:You can file the complaint where ever you want. Tell them I think you are psychotic because you believe that reptiles evolve into birds and fish evolve into mammals but you can't explain how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail. You only have the illusion that papers exist that explain this to you when the only papers that explain this, I have written. Tell them fossils tell you this is true, you have a conversation every day with them. Kleinman:Auditions for the monkey part are still open. You can tell them how reptiles evolve into birds and fish evolve into mammals but you have no idea how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail. Tell them to read papers that don't exist, except mine. Biologists have been working on it for 60 years. They even have a very good experiment demonstrating how drug resistance evolves, but sadly, they never studied introductory probability theory and they don't understand the physics and mathematics of biological evolution. They have no horse sense, they've just been monkeying around.
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ringo Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Kleinman writes:
Google thinks they exist
ringo reads papers that don't exist. Kleinman writes:
I don't need to post them any more than I need to post links to demonstrate that France exists. They're there for anybody to see.
That's why he won't post them. Kleinman writes:
Your "explanations" have been done to death in this topic. Nobody is impressed by your "explanations".
If ringo could read, he would post the following papers that explain how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail. Kleinman writes:
You don't know my horse. Aren't you embarassed blathering about things you know nothing about?
See how easy it is ringo and you are so wrongo. Ask your horse, he has more sense than you have. Kleinman writes:
Nobody needs to read your papers to understand the simple math: A → B and A → C are different from B → C.
ringo writes:
Sure have cowpoke, read the above papers and find out how it works. Have you ever thought about responding with the correct explanation of how A → B and A → C are different from B → C? Kleinman writes:
You still don't know my horse.
Of course, your horse knows more math than you do. Kleinman writes:
Read more carefully. My statement was not about where to file the complaint. It was about where they can find you.
ringo writes:
You can file the complaint where ever you want. We can have them contact you at "Department of Medicine, USA". Kleinman writes:
Even if I was wrong about that - and I have been trying to explain to you mathematically that your confusion about the math does not describe my belief - being wrong doesn't make me psychotic.
Tell them I think you are psychotic because you believe that reptiles evolve into birds and fish evolve into mammals.... Kleinman writes:
Yes, we know. Nobody on earth understands but you.
... the only papers that explain this, I have written. Kleinman writes:
You didn't answer the question: Do you really think the Scopes Monkey Trial was about monkeys?
ringo writes:
Auditions for the monkey part are still open. Do you really think a monkey was on trial? Kleinman writes:
I don't need to tell anybody that because they already know it isn't true. They can understand the simple math: A → B and A → C are different from B → C. You seem to be the only one who doesn't. You can tell them how reptiles evolve into birds and fish evolve into mammals....Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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Kleinman Member (Idle past 356 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: |
Kleinman:So post the links. But you can't because they don't exist, except for these: For a single selection pressure: The basic science and mathematics of random mutation and natural selection And for two or more simultaneous selection pressures: The mathematics of random mutation and natural selection for multiple simultaneous selection pressures and the evolution of antimicrobial drug resistance See how easy it is.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8527 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.2 |
These are nothing more than the charlatan's pamphlets for sale at the back of the room. They are presented not for information or evidence but for click count.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4411 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.4 |
SPAM, he's just posting spam AKA pig asses.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned! What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8527 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.2 |
SPAM, he's just posting spam AKA pig asses. I haven't had spam, the meat product, since my kiddyhood days more than 100 years ago. I don't remember it. Made of cast-offs like any sausage. FDA approved from forever. And it's been on-and-off popular in world society since Hormel dropped its first can. I can imagine in large quantities over years the stuff being not-so-good for cardiac reasons but is it any good on the palate? I'm thinking of finding out. For the science, of course.Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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Kleinman Member (Idle past 356 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: |
AZPaul3:Poor AZPaul3, he just doesn't like the correct explanation of how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail. It's because his bubble has burst.
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Kleinman Member (Idle past 356 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: |
Tanypteryx:This sure make Tany unhappy. It is so sad to when a bug chaser sees how biological evolution really works. You can explain how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail. To remind Tany, for a single selection pressure: The basic science and mathematics of random mutation and natural selection And for two or more simultaneous selection pressures: The mathematics of random mutation and natural selection for multiple simultaneous selection pressures and the evolution of antimicrobial drug resistance You didn't learn this chasing bugs or in your survey of physics course. Try not to be too upset when you learn how reality works, it's not good for your blood pressure. Perhaps you should do something you are good at like chasing bugs, science is too aggrevating for you.
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Kleinman Member (Idle past 356 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: |
Tanypteryx:It looks like AZPaul3 has found his calling. Tany is a real inspiration but not so good on science. He would have to do better than social promotion in his survey of physics course.
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Taq Member Posts: 10038 Joined: Member Rating: 5.3
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Kleinman writes: The basic science and mathematics of random mutation and natural selection . . . in asexual populations. Your title is incomplete.
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Kleinman Member (Idle past 356 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: |
Kleinman:You are wrong Taq, descent with modification works the same way for sexual replicators as it does with asexual replicators. The probability of an adaptive allele occurring depends on the number of replications of the allele and the mutation rate, nothing else. If you think otherwise, tell us why descent with modification is not the same for sexual replicators and asexual replicators.
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ringo Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Kleinman writes:
Why should I do your homework for you? So post the links.Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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