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Author Topic:   Is ID falsifiable by any kind of experiment?
MrIntelligentDesign
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Message 91 of 507 (904088)
12-21-2022 5:36 PM
Reply to: Message 88 by Taq
12-20-2022 10:54 AM


Re: ID About to Fail?
You don't even understand how evolution works, or how genetics works. How can you say something is stupid if you don't even understand it?
I knew how Evolution works, that is why I knew how to criticize and replace Evolution. It is you, Darwin and all supporters of Evolution that have no clue on reality and in biological living world. You are good in Evolution, but not good on reality, that is one kinds of stupidity in science.

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MrIntelligentDesign
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Message 92 of 507 (904089)
12-21-2022 5:44 PM
Reply to: Message 87 by Taq
12-20-2022 10:52 AM


Re: ID About to Fail?
Interrelate? What is that?
Interrelate is the new explanation in Biology, for change of/in frequency alleles and the origin of species. It is called Biological Interrelation, BiTs.
Also, if you understood the theory of evolution you would already know that evolution occurs at the level of the population, not at the level of the individual organism. Again, it is quite clear that you don't understand the theory of evolution.
I knew Evolution and its claim as you had stated, but I do not even care since I always relied on reality, not on someone's invention of reality like Evolution. Again, there are changes in population, inside the population, but they do not evolve to some form of new species. They all just interrelate to protect their lives.
If they were randomly distributed across their range we would expect to find as many black mice in the light brown desert as we do in regions covered in black basalt rocks. We don't. Instead, we find a really high concentration of black mice in areas covered with black basalt rocks and none in the light brown desert. The same is true of the light brown mice. We can even show that the two populations of different colored mice interbreed, and that the black allele is dominant over the light brown allele. Even though there is free interbreeding we don't find the black allele spreading out into the light brown desert. We can even track the mutation for black fur in these populations.
Again, what you are witnessing and seeing in both black and white rats are not evolution, but simply interrelation at works, to save their lives. rats will never become another new species, they will always stay as rats.
That is why, Evolution is an stupid idea and stupid explanation in science. We need to replace Evolution with Interrelation.

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Message 93 of 507 (904090)
12-21-2022 5:45 PM
Reply to: Message 90 by MrIntelligentDesign
12-21-2022 5:33 PM


Re: ID About to Fail?
AZPaul3 writes:
Don't give me any of your crap challenging evolution. Evolution is not the issue here. Either support your ID2.0 or fuck off.
Religious explanation like Evolution cannot win in science. Reality will prevent it. Now, Evolution ... blah, blah
You can't support your intelligent design. You have nothing.
Your only gig is to try to demean evolution at which you miserably fail. ID2.0 is a farce so you have decided to just fuck off. Typical religious bozo.

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MrIntelligentDesign
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Message 94 of 507 (904092)
12-21-2022 6:30 PM
Reply to: Message 93 by AZPaul3
12-21-2022 5:45 PM


Re: ID About to Fail?
I can support the Intelligent Design, in fact, I have science book to support my claim.
https://www.amazon.com/...ign-ebook/dp/B0BHJ2BKF7/ref=sr_1_1

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AZPaul3
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Message 95 of 507 (904095)
12-21-2022 7:35 PM
Reply to: Message 94 by MrIntelligentDesign
12-21-2022 6:30 PM


Re: ID About to Fail?
I can support the Intelligent Design
Then you should know the subject, quite well. I asked some significant questions in Message 84. If you know the subject well it should not be much effort to answer those questions here in this thread.
What 7 systems govern cellular organisms? Please list them and give us some reason why these systems are significant. Then explain, a few short paragraphs would do, this rating of the 7 systems that you use to determine intelligently guided versus natural.
You say you know it. Prove it. Here in this forum. Cut and paste from your book but in short paragraphs if you need to.
Start supporting your case by answering the inquiry.
All we see from you is your hate for evolution. That is not a convincing argument. Not convincing support.
No. I will not buy your book.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Message 96 of 507 (904096)
12-21-2022 7:41 PM
Reply to: Message 95 by AZPaul3
12-21-2022 7:35 PM


Re: ID About to Fail?
All we see from you is your hate for evolution. That is not convincing support.
But that's all he's got, hate for evolution, he doesn't even have a wild-assed guess for something to explain biology.

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MrIntelligentDesign
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Message 97 of 507 (904109)
12-22-2022 4:03 AM
Reply to: Message 95 by AZPaul3
12-21-2022 7:35 PM


Re: ID About to Fail?
Then you should know the subject, quite well. I asked some significant questions in Message 84. If you know the subject well it should not be much effort to answer those questions here in this thread.

What 7 systems govern cellular organisms? Please list them and give us some reason why these systems are significant. Then explain, a few short paragraphs would do, this rating of the 7 systems that you use to determine intelligently guided versus natural.

You say you know it. Prove it. Here in this forum. Cut and paste from your book but in short paragraphs if you need to.

Start supporting your case by answering the inquiry.

All we see from you is your hate for evolution. That is not a convincing argument. Not convincing support.

No. I will not buy your book.
I do not hate Evolution, since I do not hate religions. But I hate a supposedly scientific explanations like Evolution and yet has no basis in science. I hate unscientific claims in science like Evolution. If you claim and agree that Evolution is your religion, then, I do not hate Evolution.
Oh my goodness.. I did not say that the 7 Repair mechanisms of cell govern the cell. They probably do. I said that cell has 7 Repair Mechanisms, and if you could Google that, you can know them. It is so easy. You like Biology and yet you do not know that? Oh my...
I am not asking you to buy my books, since probably, you are financially poorer than me, but, I assure you, you will never know intelligence correctly without knowing my discoveries of it. That is for sure.

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MrIntelligentDesign
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Message 98 of 507 (904110)
12-22-2022 4:05 AM
Reply to: Message 96 by Tanypteryx
12-21-2022 7:41 PM


Re: ID About to Fail?
But that's all he's got, hate for evolution, he doesn't even have a wild-assed guess for something to explain biology.
I do not even hate Evolution, if that is your religion. But I hate stupidity in science because I hate stupidity in science, for I cannot test nor falsify stupidity in science, like Evolution.

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AZPaul3
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Message 99 of 507 (904116)
12-22-2022 6:36 AM
Reply to: Message 97 by MrIntelligentDesign
12-22-2022 4:03 AM


Re: ID About to Fail?
I said that cell has 7 Repair Mechanisms, and if you could Google that, you can know them.
I find several DNA repair, several cell membrane repair, several mechanical injury repair, cell plasticity Acetylation regulation and about a dozen more repair mechanisms of known cellular machinery.
You don't know what you're talking about, do you.
AZPaul3 writes:
Start supporting your case by answering the inquiry.
Not gonna happen. You can't do it. You have nothing.
You took all your rejected papers and self-published a book. You're here to push your religious hallucinations already rejected by the scientific community.
What is it with you religious lunatics and the self-publication of your rejected fantasies? You're as much a fraud as Kleinman.
... you will never know intelligence correctly without knowing my discoveries of it. That is for sure.
Yeah, right. My great loss.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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AZPaul3
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Message 100 of 507 (904117)
12-22-2022 6:59 AM
Reply to: Message 97 by MrIntelligentDesign
12-22-2022 4:03 AM


Re: ID About to Fail?
If you claim and agree that Evolution is your religion, then, I do not hate Evolution.
I do not claim evolution as my religion. Therefore you DO hate evolution.
Thinking through the logic is not your strong suit is it.
Do you eat dead-jesus-meat crackers, too? That is a known mental impediment.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Phat
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Message 101 of 507 (904122)
12-22-2022 8:35 AM
Reply to: Message 100 by AZPaul3
12-22-2022 6:59 AM


Re: ID About to Fail?
AZAntitheist writes:
Do you eat dead-jesus-meat crackers, too? That is a known mental impediment.
Oh brother!
Were that true, hundreds of millions of people would have a known and documented mental impediment. Define impediment, by the way. What specifically is belief in a higher power doing to our precious little human minds??

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AZPaul3
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Message 102 of 507 (904124)
12-22-2022 8:57 AM
Reply to: Message 101 by Phat
12-22-2022 8:35 AM


Re: ID About to Fail?
Were that true, hundreds of millions of people would have a known and documented mental impediment.
I rest my case.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Message 103 of 507 (904128)
12-22-2022 10:26 AM
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12-22-2022 4:03 AM


Re: ID About to Fail?
But I hate a supposedly scientific explanations like Evolution and yet has no basis in science.
You do not understand evolution and you do not understand science.

Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity

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Taq
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Message 104 of 507 (904130)
12-22-2022 10:33 AM
Reply to: Message 91 by MrIntelligentDesign
12-21-2022 5:36 PM


Re: ID About to Fail?
MrIntelligentDesign writes:
I knew how Evolution works, that is why I knew how to criticize and replace Evolution.
No, you don't. You don't even understand what a mutation or an allele is. You don't know how natural selection works. You don't even understand the basics of the theory.

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Taq
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Message 105 of 507 (904132)
12-22-2022 10:36 AM
Reply to: Message 92 by MrIntelligentDesign
12-21-2022 5:44 PM


Re: ID About to Fail?
MrIntelligentDesign writes:
Interrelate is the new explanation in Biology, for change of/in frequency alleles and the origin of species.
There's no such thing as a frequency allele.
I knew Evolution and its claim as you had stated, but I do not even care since I always relied on reality, not on someone's invention of reality like Evolution.
In reality, there is no such thing as a frequency allele. Apparently, you aren't basing your ideas on reality. You also don't understand what mutations are or how natural selection works, both of which are part of reality.
Again, what you are witnessing and seeing in both black and white rats are not evolution, but simply interrelation at works, to save their lives. rats will never become another new species, they will always stay as rats.
How does interrelation produce what we are observing?

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