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Author Topic:   Is ID falsifiable by any kind of experiment?
MrIntelligentDesign
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Message 86 of 507 (903984)
12-19-2022 9:53 PM
Reply to: Message 83 by Taq
12-19-2022 11:55 AM


Re: ID About to Fail?
You don't even know what selection is. You don't even know how genetics works. How can you claim that Evolution is stupid if you don't even understand what it is?
I just do not buy the stupidity of Evolution for I do not want to be intellectually stupid.
Reality is with us, let us talk reality in Biology and in biological world, and see who wins.

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MrIntelligentDesign
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Message 90 of 507 (904086)
12-21-2022 5:33 PM
Reply to: Message 89 by ringo
12-20-2022 11:02 AM


Re: ID About to Fail?
That ship has sailed. Evolution won that debate more than a century ago - and it's still racking up points today.
Religious explanation like Evolution cannot win in science. Reality will prevent it. Now, Evolution has already a counter theory that will surely blow Evolution to pieces, it is called Biological Interrelation, BiTs.

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Message 91 of 507 (904088)
12-21-2022 5:36 PM
Reply to: Message 88 by Taq
12-20-2022 10:54 AM


Re: ID About to Fail?
You don't even understand how evolution works, or how genetics works. How can you say something is stupid if you don't even understand it?
I knew how Evolution works, that is why I knew how to criticize and replace Evolution. It is you, Darwin and all supporters of Evolution that have no clue on reality and in biological living world. You are good in Evolution, but not good on reality, that is one kinds of stupidity in science.

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MrIntelligentDesign
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Message 92 of 507 (904089)
12-21-2022 5:44 PM
Reply to: Message 87 by Taq
12-20-2022 10:52 AM


Re: ID About to Fail?
Interrelate? What is that?
Interrelate is the new explanation in Biology, for change of/in frequency alleles and the origin of species. It is called Biological Interrelation, BiTs.
Also, if you understood the theory of evolution you would already know that evolution occurs at the level of the population, not at the level of the individual organism. Again, it is quite clear that you don't understand the theory of evolution.
I knew Evolution and its claim as you had stated, but I do not even care since I always relied on reality, not on someone's invention of reality like Evolution. Again, there are changes in population, inside the population, but they do not evolve to some form of new species. They all just interrelate to protect their lives.
If they were randomly distributed across their range we would expect to find as many black mice in the light brown desert as we do in regions covered in black basalt rocks. We don't. Instead, we find a really high concentration of black mice in areas covered with black basalt rocks and none in the light brown desert. The same is true of the light brown mice. We can even show that the two populations of different colored mice interbreed, and that the black allele is dominant over the light brown allele. Even though there is free interbreeding we don't find the black allele spreading out into the light brown desert. We can even track the mutation for black fur in these populations.
Again, what you are witnessing and seeing in both black and white rats are not evolution, but simply interrelation at works, to save their lives. rats will never become another new species, they will always stay as rats.
That is why, Evolution is an stupid idea and stupid explanation in science. We need to replace Evolution with Interrelation.

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Message 94 of 507 (904092)
12-21-2022 6:30 PM
Reply to: Message 93 by AZPaul3
12-21-2022 5:45 PM


Re: ID About to Fail?
I can support the Intelligent Design, in fact, I have science book to support my claim.
https://www.amazon.com/...ign-ebook/dp/B0BHJ2BKF7/ref=sr_1_1

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MrIntelligentDesign
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Message 97 of 507 (904109)
12-22-2022 4:03 AM
Reply to: Message 95 by AZPaul3
12-21-2022 7:35 PM


Re: ID About to Fail?
Then you should know the subject, quite well. I asked some significant questions in Message 84. If you know the subject well it should not be much effort to answer those questions here in this thread.

What 7 systems govern cellular organisms? Please list them and give us some reason why these systems are significant. Then explain, a few short paragraphs would do, this rating of the 7 systems that you use to determine intelligently guided versus natural.

You say you know it. Prove it. Here in this forum. Cut and paste from your book but in short paragraphs if you need to.

Start supporting your case by answering the inquiry.

All we see from you is your hate for evolution. That is not a convincing argument. Not convincing support.

No. I will not buy your book.
I do not hate Evolution, since I do not hate religions. But I hate a supposedly scientific explanations like Evolution and yet has no basis in science. I hate unscientific claims in science like Evolution. If you claim and agree that Evolution is your religion, then, I do not hate Evolution.
Oh my goodness.. I did not say that the 7 Repair mechanisms of cell govern the cell. They probably do. I said that cell has 7 Repair Mechanisms, and if you could Google that, you can know them. It is so easy. You like Biology and yet you do not know that? Oh my...
I am not asking you to buy my books, since probably, you are financially poorer than me, but, I assure you, you will never know intelligence correctly without knowing my discoveries of it. That is for sure.

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MrIntelligentDesign
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Message 98 of 507 (904110)
12-22-2022 4:05 AM
Reply to: Message 96 by Tanypteryx
12-21-2022 7:41 PM


Re: ID About to Fail?
But that's all he's got, hate for evolution, he doesn't even have a wild-assed guess for something to explain biology.
I do not even hate Evolution, if that is your religion. But I hate stupidity in science because I hate stupidity in science, for I cannot test nor falsify stupidity in science, like Evolution.

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MrIntelligentDesign
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Message 111 of 507 (904178)
12-22-2022 11:53 PM
Reply to: Message 99 by AZPaul3
12-22-2022 6:36 AM


Re: ID About to Fail?
I find several DNA repair, several cell membrane repair, several mechanical injury repair, cell plasticity Acetylation regulation and about a dozen more repair mechanisms of known cellular machinery.

You don't know what you're talking about, do you.


Not gonna happen. You can't do it. You have nothing.

You took all your rejected papers and self-published a book. You're here to push your religious hallucinations already rejected by the scientific community.

What is it with you religious lunatics and the self-publication of your rejected fantasies? You're as much a fraud as Kleinman.
I knew too that since cell and its members have many Repair mechanisms, then, they are the evidences that the cell is intellen, or intelligently designed, showing further that Evolution is really stupid.
There are only two possibilities: that I am wrong or they are. I think they are, since they could never define intelligence and use that in Biology. Showing further that those who supports Evolution are intellectually dumb. Dumb, because they did not know the topic of intelligence.
That is why, I think that Evolution is a religion.. since how could a 160 years old theory could never define intelligence or instinct... stupid Evolution, right?

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MrIntelligentDesign
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Message 112 of 507 (904179)
12-22-2022 11:55 PM
Reply to: Message 103 by nwr
12-22-2022 10:26 AM


Re: ID About to Fail?
You do not understand evolution and you do not understand science.
I understand Evolution, I understand science, I understand reality. You, you did not understand both science and reality.

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Message 114 of 507 (904186)
12-23-2022 3:12 AM
Reply to: Message 105 by Taq
12-22-2022 10:36 AM


Re: ID About to Fail?
No, you don't. You don't even understand what a mutation or an allele is. You don't know how natural selection works. You don't even understand the basics of the theory.
In reality, there is no such thing as a frequency allele. Apparently, you aren't basing your ideas on reality. You also don't understand what mutations are or how natural selection works, both of which are part of reality.
How does interrelation produce what we are observing?
I will repeat that I do not care about the stupid explanations of Evolution about mutation or natural selections, since they are all wrong anyway. WHY WRONG? Because Darwin did not have criteria between control to un-control change in frequency alleles. That is stupidity.
I did not say frequency alleles, I said change in freq alleles, and I do not care. Evolution is wrong anyway.
Interrelation, from Biological Interrelation uses intelligence to deal with life and living organisms.
The main mechanism is Intelligent Selection, and not Natural Selection. Nature does not select.

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MrIntelligentDesign
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Message 115 of 507 (904187)
12-23-2022 3:14 AM
Reply to: Message 113 by dwise1
12-23-2022 1:02 AM


Re: ID About to Fail?
Everything that we have seen you write say the exact opposite.

Yet again, reality contradicts you.

You really need to learn something. Actually, you need to learn a lot.
You forgot that Evolution is wrong because Evolution has no basis of its explanations in science. WHAT BASIS? The basis of change.
Evolution must have criteria or basis of change, if not, Evolution is wrong and dumb.
WHERE is that basis? None! Thus, Evolution is a religion.

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Message 116 of 507 (904188)
12-23-2022 3:21 AM
Reply to: Message 106 by Tanypteryx
12-22-2022 11:03 AM


Re: ID About to Fail?
It's not a religion.

Instead of writing nonsense about evolution, maybe a better strategy would be to tell us about what scientific breakthroughs have been discovered by ID using actual science. You need actual supporting evidence, not made up CRAPOLLA like CIFA and intellen X and UBL, that no one has ever heard of, except for you. Can you even tell us what tests do you apply to measure changes in allele frequency in a population of organisms?
Evolution is religion since it has no answer for two opposing extremes opposites in Biology. Creationism was kicked out in science since Creationism cannot tell which is created X and un-created X. The same with Evolution, Evolution must be kicked out in science.
The FIRST breakthrough is the definition of intelligence, that all definitions, as written in all dictionaries, in all formats, in all languages, must be changed and replaced. The correct one is from my discovered definition.
TEST for what change? There are many changes in biological world, and if you are asking the transitional change to become new species, then, Evolution must answer that first. I had just submitted that falsification paper in science journals for that, since Evolution has no test for that.
Care to answer, or give up?

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MrIntelligentDesign
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Message 117 of 507 (904189)
12-23-2022 3:25 AM
Reply to: Message 109 by AZPaul3
12-22-2022 3:09 PM


Re: ID About to Fail?
I believe that is our MrID. What google finds is the self-published book he was hawking.
Postrado is a self important fraud.
DEFEAT me first in science, then, I will agree with you.
Amazon.com

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MrIntelligentDesign
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Message 126 of 507 (904277)
12-25-2022 4:29 PM
Reply to: Message 125 by Tanypteryx
12-23-2022 11:03 AM


Re: ID About to Fail?
That is exactly what the Theory of Evolution already answers.
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You mean your "invented definition."
I would like to reiterate that Evolution has no part in reality in Biology. Evolution does not explain reality but invented its own reality, and imposed it in science. One examples of Evolution's fantasy of explanation is Natural Selection. No one had ever tested and confirmed that nature could select for life. There is no evidence for this.
Yes, in all published dictionaries, publishers must invent definitions for every words so that they could publish the dictionaries, like the word intelligence or intentional, etc, by using Evolution as basis. But when you use them in science, for example in the change in frequency alleles, (CIFA) you cannot simply use them.
Thus, there is something wrong with the basis, Evolution. That is why Evolution is a stupid theory, for Evolution never answer anything in science.

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MrIntelligentDesign
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Message 127 of 507 (904278)
12-25-2022 4:34 PM
Reply to: Message 124 by Taq
12-23-2022 10:56 AM


Re: ID About to Fail?
It does have that answer. It is based on spontaneity.

Already answered. The change is caused by spontaneous, and hence natural and non-intelligent, means.
Spontaneous = natural process.
Once again, anybody can claim in science. Even religious freaks could claim many things in science.
But science needs to know if X is really made through spontaneous process or not.
Can you tell me which X in Biology that is not "made by spontaneous process" (MBSP) and MBSP X?
What is the criteria and numerical limit between
MBSP X = _______________?
not MBSP X = _____________?
How did you arrive or derive the criteria for MBSP? Any experiment? Any test so that I could confirm too?

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