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Author Topic:   Is ID falsifiable by any kind of experiment?
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Message 100 of 507 (904117)
12-22-2022 6:59 AM
Reply to: Message 97 by MrIntelligentDesign
12-22-2022 4:03 AM


Re: ID About to Fail?
If you claim and agree that Evolution is your religion, then, I do not hate Evolution.
I do not claim evolution as my religion. Therefore you DO hate evolution.
Thinking through the logic is not your strong suit is it.
Do you eat dead-jesus-meat crackers, too? That is a known mental impediment.

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Message 102 of 507 (904124)
12-22-2022 8:57 AM
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12-22-2022 8:35 AM


Re: ID About to Fail?
Were that true, hundreds of millions of people would have a known and documented mental impediment.
I rest my case.

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Message 109 of 507 (904155)
12-22-2022 3:09 PM
Reply to: Message 107 by ringo
12-22-2022 11:38 AM


Re: ID About to Fail?
The author, Edgar A. Postrado, seems to be a civil engineer - not a biologist.
I believe that is our MrID. What google finds is the self-published book he was hawking.
quote:
As the title suggests, this science book is about the Scientific Arguments of the new Intelligent Design, as initially and originally written for submission for many secular science journals. The original manuscripts were submitted to science journals, but the journals failed to publish the science articles.
Just like Kleinman, Postrado is a self important fraud.

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Message 118 of 507 (904192)
12-23-2022 6:43 AM
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12-22-2022 11:53 PM


Re: ID About to Fail?
... they are the evidences that the cell is intellen, or intelligently designed, showing further that Evolution is really stupid.
How do they evidence intelligence? Specifically. Physically. What are their specific properties you say denote intelligence?
There are only two possibilities: that I am wrong or they are.
We already know the answer to that. They are not wrong.
Again you rage on evolution instead of supporting your own work. Is your work that bad? Must be since you can't explain it adequately.

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Message 119 of 507 (904193)
12-23-2022 6:46 AM
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12-23-2022 3:25 AM


Re: ID About to Fail?
DEFEAT me first in science, then, I will agree with you.
Fool. Science already DEFEATED you! Rejected your papers and sent you packing.

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Message 142 of 507 (904311)
12-26-2022 11:22 PM
Reply to: Message 141 by MrIntelligentDesign
12-26-2022 10:48 PM


Re: Merry Trollmas
TO THOSE OF YOU WHO are supporters of Evolution, please help this poster defend Evolution Theory ...
Nah. I'll just sit here and watch you get torn a new one.

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Message 160 of 507 (904431)
12-29-2022 9:14 PM
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12-29-2022 8:54 PM


Re: Merry Trollmas
how do you know that X is not guided or X is guided?
I don't know. How do you know whether X is guided or not guided?
How do you tell?

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Message 184 of 507 (904492)
12-30-2022 8:57 PM
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12-30-2022 8:37 PM


Post withdrawn.
The stupid has become too much.

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Message 202 of 507 (905002)
01-13-2023 9:55 PM
Reply to: Message 199 by MrIntelligentDesign
01-13-2023 7:58 PM


Re: Merry Trollmas
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
He’s talking about reality.
Is Evolution guided or not?
Is Evolution directed or not?
Yes, evolution is directed. It is guided.
The genomic mutations are random. There is no way to tell what any mutation will do. The part you miss is the environment. The environment is the guide to whether any specific mutation is beneficial, neutral or harmful and whether the mutation spreads in the population or dies out. That determines how populations evolve.
The guiding light for the environment is physics, chemistry. They draw the map evolution follows. And the goal of this guided process is directed toward reproduction.
If guided or directed how come a mindless nature could guide or direct?
Because your view of “directed” and “guided” are borne of religious stupidity, not the energy requirements and flow of the universe.

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Message 204 of 507 (905006)
01-14-2023 12:50 AM
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01-14-2023 12:17 AM


Re: Merry Trollmas
What's wrong about it?

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Message 210 of 507 (905040)
01-14-2023 8:30 PM
Reply to: Message 205 by MrIntelligentDesign
01-14-2023 2:04 AM


Re: Merry Trollmas
Can you check them in reality?
Yes., of course. That's why they are included in the theory.

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Message 221 of 507 (905429)
01-26-2023 12:26 PM
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01-25-2023 5:12 PM


Re: Lost & Found
See vimesey's Message 164.
You're a month late.

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Message 246 of 507 (905579)
01-30-2023 9:22 PM
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01-30-2023 12:32 PM


Re: Lost & Found
So in essence what you appear to be suggesting is that the reason that Mr.I D can attack evolutionary theory is ...
... because he is fucking stupid and doesn't know any better.

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Message 249 of 507 (907026)
02-18-2023 1:07 PM
Reply to: Message 247 by sensei
02-18-2023 12:24 PM


Re: Lost & Found
No, just a pissed-off poster tired of posers with no credentials, persistent misconceptions of the most basic concepts even after correction, insisting their fantasies should rule the world. That the science is wrong, stupid and scientists cannot know what we actually happen to know very well. Like big bang and evolution.
That is all it is evidence of. Nothing earth shattering as evidence of a god might cause.
MrID's and your objections to evolution are way old. We have debunked these arguments decades ago and we keep getting new YECs and religious newbees coming in making the same old tired useless intellectually vacant claims and arguments. You folk never seem to bring anything new.
Serious, sensei, I'm getting old and the constant repetition of the same stupid by you religious guys is too taxing on my old spirit.
Please get some training in these subjects before continuing. Real training, not some religious YEC web site's stinted version.

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Message 251 of 507 (907057)
02-18-2023 3:31 PM
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02-18-2023 3:04 PM


Re: Lost & Found
The debunking has already been done. The evidence is all around the net.
This is a narrative-intensive venue. We are not equipped to give semesters worth of training in complex fields or in how to conduct research methods.
You're on your own. All I can do is tell you when the science says you're wrong and a bit of why. I'm not going to be able to prove anything to you without your help in learning the basics first.

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