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Author Topic:   Is ID falsifiable by any kind of experiment?
dwise1
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Message 226 of 507 (905510)
01-28-2023 9:12 PM
Reply to: Message 225 by MrIntelligentDesign
01-28-2023 8:13 PM


Re: Lost & Found
Yes, evolution is indeed science.
Actual evolution, not whatever stupid bullshit you've made up and try to pass off as "evolution."
IOW, when you say anything about "evolution", you're lying.
 
How can you tell when a creationist is lying? His lips are moving.
 

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Message 227 of 507 (905529)
01-29-2023 3:53 PM
Reply to: Message 226 by dwise1
01-28-2023 9:12 PM


Re: Lost & Found
Evolution is science? Yes, according to your ignorance of reality.
You must compare Evolution to reality, and you will see that Evolution is fantasy.
Do you really believe that Evolution explains and describes reality in biological world? How do you know?
There is no truth found in Evolution.

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dwise1
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Message 228 of 507 (905533)
01-29-2023 4:49 PM
Reply to: Message 227 by MrIntelligentDesign
01-29-2023 3:53 PM


Re: Lost & Found
Do you really believe that Evolution explains and describes reality in biological world? How do you know?
Because, unlike you, I have studied evolution -- actual evolution, not your bullshit misrepresentation of "evolution". And I have studied how biology works. And unlike you, I have tested what I have learned. What I have found is that evolution not only describes population dynamics, but examination of population dynamics, especially walking through how populations reproduce, leads directly to biological evolution.
But what about your bullshit misrepresentation of evolution? It has no connection with reality and your bullshit lies that you call "Evolution" is nothing but fantasy.
There is no truth found in Evolution.
There is no truth to your bullshit lies and fantasy that you call "Evolution", despite it having almost nothing whatsoever to do with actual evolution.
On the other hand (OTOH), actual evolution is spot-on.
You need to dump your bullshit lies and try to learn something about actual evolution.

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Message 229 of 507 (905534)
01-29-2023 5:05 PM
Reply to: Message 223 by MrIntelligentDesign
01-28-2023 2:35 AM


Re: Lost & Found
Sorry that I could not response quickly since I am writing an article for submission: falsification of Evolution Theory.
Oh Bullshit! You are a fake. Writing "falsification of evolution" is as close as you will ever get. You are a fraud. You have been falsified.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 230 of 507 (905536)
01-30-2023 2:31 AM
Reply to: Message 228 by dwise1
01-29-2023 4:49 PM


Re: Lost & Found
ACTUAL EVOLUTION? Real Evolution? Are you crazy? There is only one Evolution Theory, and that is yours.
You are not better than the people who wrote articles in TalkOrigins.
Evolution vs Reality is the topic.
What side are you in?

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Message 231 of 507 (905537)
01-30-2023 2:32 AM
Reply to: Message 229 by Tanypteryx
01-29-2023 5:05 PM


Re: Lost & Found
The reason why you cannot falsify and rebut Evolution Theory because you are supporting a fantasy.
STOP the FANTASY! BE SCIENTIFIC! lol!

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dwise1
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Message 232 of 507 (905538)
01-30-2023 3:23 AM
Reply to: Message 230 by MrIntelligentDesign
01-30-2023 2:31 AM


Re: Lost & Found
Yes! ACTUAL EVOLUTION!
What evolution actually is and what it actually teaches.
NOT the stupid bullshit strawman nonsense that you call "Evolution".
Evolution vs Reality is the topic.

What side are you in?
I am on the side of evolution and reality. Because they are inseparable.
OTOH, you are on the side of stupid bullshit lies about what you misidentify as "Evolution".
Your bullshit strawman "Evolution" is pure fantasy, entirely unlike what evolution actually is, which you know nothing about.
Please, pull your head out of your ass and learn something about the subject!
For one thing, you should go back to TalkOrigins and learn from those articles.

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Message 233 of 507 (905539)
01-30-2023 4:03 AM
Reply to: Message 232 by dwise1
01-30-2023 3:23 AM


Re: Lost & Found
LOL!
Let us discuss one topic if you are really talking REALITY.
Change...what is change in reality?

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Phat
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Message 234 of 507 (905540)
01-30-2023 8:11 AM
Reply to: Message 233 by MrIntelligentDesign
01-30-2023 4:03 AM


Re: Lost & Found
Change...what is change in reality?
At my job, change comes out of the coin changer after one hands me X amount of dollars to pay for their groceries. Change is made up of Quarters, Dimes, Nickels and Pennies.

The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894).
When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy
Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022
We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed

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Tanypteryx
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Message 235 of 507 (905544)
01-30-2023 11:14 AM
Reply to: Message 231 by MrIntelligentDesign
01-30-2023 2:32 AM


Re: Lost & Found
The reason why you cannot falsify and rebut Evolution Theory because you are supporting a fantasy.
And yet, all the evidence from every scientific field supports the Theory of Evolution and none supports ID. Every time creationism tries to challenge science it loses because ALL the evidence supports evolution.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 236 of 507 (905546)
01-30-2023 11:37 AM
Reply to: Message 225 by MrIntelligentDesign
01-28-2023 8:13 PM


Re: Lost & Found
MrID writes:
But Evolution is not science.
You obviously don't understand what science is. You apparently think science is just defining words.

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Message 237 of 507 (905547)
01-30-2023 11:40 AM
Reply to: Message 231 by MrIntelligentDesign
01-30-2023 2:32 AM


Re: Lost & Found
MrID writes:
The reason why you cannot falsify and rebut Evolution Theory because you are supporting a fantasy.
Funny how you can't show us any of these fantasies.
I have shown you experiments that demonstrate how mutations are not guided, and you can't respond. Why is that?

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Message 238 of 507 (905548)
01-30-2023 11:42 AM
Reply to: Message 227 by MrIntelligentDesign
01-29-2023 3:53 PM


Re: Lost & Found
MrID writes:
Do you really believe that Evolution explains and describes reality in biological world? How do you know?
We have the observations that match the predictions made by the theory. That's how we know the theory is accurate. This is how science is done.
For example, the predictions and observations found in this thread:
https://www.evcforum.net/dm.php?control=msg&t=20367
We have the observed nested hierarchy. We have observed transitional fossils. We have observed orthologous ERV's. We have observed phylogenetic signals in genetic data. Reality supports the theory, and you refuse to even address reality. Instead, you blabber on and on about definitions you have invented.

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Message 239 of 507 (905555)
01-30-2023 12:21 PM
Reply to: Message 231 by MrIntelligentDesign
01-30-2023 2:32 AM


Re: Lost & Found
MrIntelligentDesign writes:
The reason why you cannot falsify and rebut Evolution Theory because you are supporting a fantasy.
We can't falsify elephants either.
Do ya know why?
Because they are reality.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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Message 240 of 507 (905556)
01-30-2023 12:32 PM
Reply to: Message 239 by ringo
01-30-2023 12:21 PM


Re: Lost & Found
So in essence what you appear to be suggesting is that the reason that Mr.I D can attack evolutionary theory is because he essentially made his own straw man to knock down.

The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894).
When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy
Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022
We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed

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