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Author Topic:   A Natural History of Rape?
Trixie
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Message 9 of 33 (90613)
03-05-2004 4:03 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by Silent H
03-05-2004 3:48 PM


Did anyone bother to ask.....
.....the rapists why they rape? That just might give a hint as to the motivation behind rape. I have to admit to NEVER having heard a rapist say that they raped to get someone pregnant without the liability of child support payments!!! Men can do that without raping and they do it every minute of every day (don't mean to sound anti-male, but it is a fact).
I'll need to try to dig out some info on this. I'm sure I've seen a study on serial rapists who, when asked why they did it, said it was all to do with power and humiliation of women. Some hated women, some were "getting their own back", none said that it was to father a child.
We should leave "date rape" out of this as this can be construed as a guy too keen, too thick or both, to understand that "No" means "No". A sort of crossing of wires.

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Trixie
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From: Edinburgh
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Message 12 of 33 (90629)
03-05-2004 4:40 PM
Reply to: Message 11 by Parsimonious_Razor
03-05-2004 4:27 PM


Re: Did anyone bother to ask.....
True, but if you want to know why someone made the choice to go out and rape a woman, you might get closer to the truth if you ask them, rather than making assumptions based on a pet theory. With help, people are able to perceive their own hidden motivations, but in many cases a rapist makes a concious, active decision to commit his crime. For example, he may want to humiliate women and that's his driving force, but the reason behind this need to humiliate women may be obscure to him.

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Trixie
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Message 14 of 33 (90649)
03-05-2004 5:29 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by Parsimonious_Razor
03-05-2004 4:58 PM


Re: Did anyone bother to ask.....
I'm far from convinced. I still think that asking someone why he decided to rape is valuable. You don't need him to be able to tell you his hidden motivations. If it was to humiliate or have power over women then that answers your question. It doesn't answer why he felt he wanted to humiliate or have power over women, but it would show that it had nothing to do with fertility of the female.
Serial rapists are those with a compulsion to rape and rape again, just like serial murderers. Thopse who commit the crimes as a one-off are less likely to be demonstrating the "normal" behaviour you assign. I thought the whole point of this was to answer the question "Why do some men feel the need/urge to commit rape?" That is really only valid for those who habitually rape ie serial rapists. Do you see what I mean?

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