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Phat Member Posts: 18690 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 4.5 |
You might be interested in the effectiveness of vitamin D3 in correlation with hospital admissions. I've heard that D3 made a marked difference.
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** “…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox “A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.” “The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
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Taq Member Posts: 10344 Joined: Member Rating: 6.3
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Phat writes: I've heard that D3 made a marked difference. There have been mixed results.
quote: Vaccines are still, by far, the best first defense. Remdesivir and Paxlovid have both been approved for treatment with COVID infections, so those would probably be better options. Still, it won't hurt anything to top off with some vitamin D, just don't pretend that it is a valid replacement for vaccines or approved meds.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9489 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: |
What you hear is worthless. What does the data show?
I will tell you what the data shows. Nothing, no real effect. If you find studies that show something present them. Studies that showed a marked effect were either poorly done or they were not able to replicate the results. What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Taq Member Posts: 10344 Joined: Member Rating: 6.3
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quote: Those numbers could have been a lot higher if the vaccines were made available in poorer countries, but still, that's a lot of lives saved by a vaccine in a single year.
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Taq Member Posts: 10344 Joined: Member Rating: 6.3 |
Would be interesting to see if vaccines could actually make an impact in voting at some point.
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Porkncheese Member (Idle past 561 days) Posts: 198 From: Australia Joined: |
Meanwhile the vaxed are suddenly dropping all around with all cause deaths up by as high as 40% in some highly vaxed nations ...I wonder why...
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8681 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 6.0
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Meanwhile the vaxed are suddenly dropping all around with all cause deaths up by as high as 40% in some highly vaxed nations ... I wonder why... Liar.Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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xongsmith Member Posts: 2635 From: massachusetts US Joined: Member Rating: 6.1 |
WHAT A FUCKIN LIAR! GET THE FUCK OUTTA HERE, YOU ASSHOLE!
"I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside." Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned! Enjoy every sandwich! - xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9489 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined:
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Don't you love the arguing by meme. Shows the utter stupidity.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8681 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 6.0
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No. But it does shed a lot of light on the low intellect of the poster.
He is a nazibot. No intellect, just hate.Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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Taq Member Posts: 10344 Joined: Member Rating: 6.3
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PorknCheese writes: Meanwhile the vaxed are suddenly dropping all around with all cause deaths up by as high as 40% in some highly vaxed nations ... It's as if anti-vaxxers can't even stop for a second and do some simple math. About 79% of the US is vaccinated. If 40% have dropped dead in a country with 330 million people that would be 0.79*0.40*330E6=104E6. That's 104 million people that seemingly have died due to the vaccine in the US. Funny how no one has noticed this. Our hospitals were filled to capacity, and over capacity at times, due to people dying from COVID, and that was nowhere close to the rates anti-vaxxer fantasies are claiming for deaths due to vaccines. This is worse than Flat Earth. Added in edit:Just for fun, I looked up the mortality rates for the US over the last 10 years or so: Year Death Rate Growth Rate 2022 9.075 1.090% 2021 8.977 1.090% 2020 8.880 1.120% 2019 8.782 1.120% 2018 8.685 1.220% 2017 8.580 1.240% 2016 8.475 1.270% 2015 8.369 1.270% 2014 8.264 1.290% 2013 8.159 0.090% 2012 8.152 0.090%U.S. Death Rate 1950-2022 | MacroTrends Death rate is deaths per 1,000 people. If we use the last pre-COVID year as our benchmark, then there has been about 0.4 more deaths per 1,000 people in 2022. If all of those extra deaths are due to vaccines (which they aren't) then we are looking at a 0.04*0.79 or 0.03% increase. Again, this pushing the numbers to the extreme. 40% . . . really? Edited by Taq, . Edited by Taq, .
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Percy Member Posts: 23055 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 6.5
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For most of us here, our beliefs about covid mortality were confirmed by recent studies. One "concluded that people living in more-conservative parts of the United States disproportionately bore the burden of illness and death linked to covid-19." (Can politics kill you? Research says the answer increasingly is yes.)
The article goes on for a while, but to summarize in my own words, some states actively fought the coronavirus and other states ignored it. Those that ignored it suffered disproportionately from illness and death due to covid. Still summarizing, the other study concluded that longevity in the US has dropped to the lowest it's been since 1996 — 76.1 years. I have a couple friends who believe covid is fake. None caught covid. I have several other friends who are very casual about covid. They almost all caught it. A number of friends masked up and still caught covid. And one friend is a fatalist who caught long covid, still can't walk for more than ten minutes, and refuses all medical treatment for his condition. This tells us just one thing that I think we already knew: people are driven by their internal feelings, and much about those internal feelings is driven by external factors, particularly what everyone around them believes. Unfortunately, in today's connected world, "everyone around them" potentially includes everyone everywhere, including all the Internet idiots claiming covid was a fraud wrought by the Democrats as part of a larger conspiracy to take away our freedoms. The only thing that seems to convince these people is lying on their death bed, and oftentimes not even then. The studies:
--Percy
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Tangle Member Posts: 9602 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 5.8
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I wonder what the Covidiots are making of what's happening in China now that the lid has been taken off.
Reuters reported that Chinese hospitals have been overwhelmed during the Christmas period as the epidemic rips through the population. The Chinese vaccines aren't terribly good, immunity from prior infection is fairly low given the severity of the lockdown and despite them publishing a 90% vaccination rate half of the over 80s haven't had their third vaccination. It's not looking good there; you get some idea what would have happened without lockdowns and good vaccines.Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine. "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed. |
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Porkncheese Member (Idle past 561 days) Posts: 198 From: Australia Joined: |
To all the idiots that were calling for the inhumane treatment of the unvaxed i say SUFFER.
I still know no one who was harmed by covid but countless people i know were harmed by lockdowns and toxic needles The vaxed are dropping like flies Cancers, blood clots, heart inflammation, strokes, neurological issues, miscarriages, blood disorders, mental disorders.All of these and more have sky rocketed and their all known side effects of the covid needles. Deaths have risen by up to 20% since the release of the experimental syringes in countries that took up big pharmas offer. And in young people not just old I feel sorry to the people that got sucked in and took these toxic needles only to be killed or maimed by them. I know some of them.But to the animals who were calling for the discrimination of the unvaxed when we did nothing wrong, i say EAT MY FAT DICK We're still standing strong
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8681 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 6.0 |
Are you a professional disinformation hack? You spew like one. Who do you work for?
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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