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I think you are right. So do the lot of you. Which I suppose is why I am "stupid" around here. I see the doughnut, while you all see the hole. I'm not sure why you get so worked up over what candle says. Though he is clearly attempting to preach to us, I don't make the connection as to how he is serving satan, based on what he says. At worst, he has bad sources for his information.

Phat, I am not a preacher. And, I have asked you to switch
to a different denominations. Not once have I done this.Regarding CH, all one has to do is go back and listen to
his lectures; speaking engagements; and, debates.The only weapon that CH uses in his discourses is
philosophy.Philosophy does not lead one to the truth. In fact, it
almost always leads to the opposite.One example.Those who claim that the Sabbath is no longer in effect
point to the 2nd chapter of Colossians as proof.Vs. 16 "Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in
drink, or in respect of an holiday, or of the new moon,
or of the Sabbath:"Vs.17 "Which are a shadow of the things to come; but
the body is of Christ.""See," they say, don't judge what one eats (they say that
all meat is now suitable for eating).Also, they point out that Paul in verse 16 tells us not to
judge others about whether or not they observe the
holy days; the new moon; or the Sabbath.These, they insist, are just a shadow of the things to
come. They are done away with.Paul letter is addressed to the fleshly uncircumcised
(Gentiles). Vs. 11, 13.In vs. 4, Paul yell the Colossians not to let any man
beguile them with enticing words.And in vs. 8 "Beware lest any man spoil you through
philosophy and vain deceit, and the tradition of men,
after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ."Vs.20 "Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the
rudiments of the world, why, as though living in the world.
are ye subject to ordinances,"21 "Touch not; taste not; handle not;"Also read vs. 22 & 23.Asceticism was infiltrating the Colossian church.Asceticism is a religious belief that stresses self-denial
of the body in order to become more spiritual.These ascedic philosophers were condemning the
Colossians Christians from observing the Sabbaths
and holy days in a joyous manner.Nowhere in scripture are the Holy days and the Sabbath
described as "rudiments of the world."They were tryinging to force man-made traditions on
the Colissian Christians.The Word "meat" in vs.16 is from "brosis." Brosis refers
to the act of eating, not to a certain food.The ascetic philosophers condemned them for eating.
They believed that self-denial was the only way to grow
spiritually.They believed in neglecting the body; worship of angels;
and, false humility.The new moon was used as a lunar calendar to keep
track of God's Holy days.The Holy days are an outline of God's plan of creating
His family.The Passover was only the first step. Christ's death
reconciled us to God. It made a relationship with Him
possible.Vs. 14 "Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that
was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it
out of the way, nailing it to the cross."This does not refer to the 10 Commandments, as many
assert. The Commandments are not against us.It isn't against us to not steal, lie, or commit adultery, etc...Death is what was against us. It is contrary to us. Jesus
took death in our place by being nailed to the cross.We all have to face temporary physical death, but because
of His death on the cross (Stauros--upright beam), we can be
resurrected to eternal life.

He uses lies to vilify everyone who disagrees with his religious and political view. Vile character assassination based on lies about the motivations of scientists and everyone who is a liberal. If that isn't serving this Satan character that all you christians say is your enemy, then it's lying for god. Either option seems without dignity or honor.

Candle2 has given us an excellent example of the very poison religion brings to the human species. There is nothing in his posts that have any basis in reality. There is nothing there except fantasy. The entire creed is based on whatever stories the priests pulled from their imaginations without evidence. The weak minded, like Candle2, are forced, by lack of intellect, to be indoctrinated into belief.This allows religious cults to create evil without resistance. Religious thought, bereft of reality, intellect and respect for the human condition, is unencumbered by morality and can, in its fantasy, rationalize the need to oppress its perceived enemies.God hates faggots. It's in the book. God hates jews. They killed our christ. Liberate the "holy land". Kill all the infidels. Kill the Gnostics. They speak blasphemy. And they justify their evil using the same faulty superstitious reasoning that maintains their religious beliefs.Religious thought is poison to the human soul. Religion and its hatred for humanity is the major purveyor of evil in this world. The insistence on belief in fantasy and the lack of reality, critical thinking and intellect in religion's reasoning, is the poisonous cause.

That was the first sentence in a post that was full of preaching.

God doesn't ask you to understand it, but to believe it. Faith is not a science project ... and neither is the supernatural.

If there was something really there then your god would very well be a science project. We science everything.

You can't "science" the two miracles that I experienced ... mainly coz science is way too puny to explain the supernatural. Grow up and stop talking ignorant nonsense.

Sure can. You first.

The shallow little mind of the atheist can't rise above the physical plane (science) to the much higher plane of the supernatural (God). In that sense, atheists can be regarded - and indeed, pitied - as intellectually retarded.

There is the problem, Altar Boy. There is no higher plane (supernatural) in this universe. That's all a part of your fantasy. And we know it's fantasy because you insist on it without evidence or logical reasoning. It's all emotional; in your head. Supernatural is the fantasy land where you can play your imaginary games with your imaginary overlords. It isn't real and no one can show otherwise.

As a fellow believer, I will totally disagree with you. First of all, we do not find God. God finds us. Our mind *never* rose to find Him. Second, atheists in general have more developed and educated minds than do believers. AZ Paul3 may be an antitheist, but he is no more to be pitied than the corrupt Popes of the past in "Gods chosen church". They knew full well what they were doing and so does AZ. He fights your attitude as much as he fights your Theology.

You believe in magic and we.do not.

Theodoric, you do believe in magic.You believe in the magic of chemicals creating life.You believe in fairy tales.Your fairy tale begins by "long ago and far away."OR,"Did you hear about the frog who turned into a prince."

We see that it is chemicals and only chemicals that create life even today.Learn that words have meaning. So far it seems that you never got that far.