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Topic: The Power of the New Intelligent Design...
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Tanypteryx
Member Posts: 4451 From: Oregon, USA Joined: 08-27-2006 Member Rating: 5.0
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Message 676 of 1197 (906405)
02-11-2023 1:29 PM
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Reply to: Message 674 by Dredge
02-11-2023 12:51 PM
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Re: Typical?
Sludge writes: please be advised that I'm not a YEC. Of course you are. Young Earth Creationist is tattooed on your forehead.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty PythonOne important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Dredge
Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: 09-06-2016
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Re: Typical?
Kind sir, please be advised that I have several (Christian) tattoos but none of them are located on my forehead.
I'm not a YEC, although I respect those Christians who do believe in a young earth.
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Tanypteryx
Member Posts: 4451 From: Oregon, USA Joined: 08-27-2006 Member Rating: 5.0
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Message 678 of 1197 (906428)
02-11-2023 6:44 PM
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Reply to: Message 677 by Dredge
02-11-2023 6:41 PM
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Re: Typical?
You're a YEC. Everyone knows you're a YEC.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty PythonOne important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Dredge
Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: 09-06-2016
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Re: Typical?
Dear Super Insect Man, I've been meaning to ask ... Since your diet consists entirely of insects, what does your favourite snack - the dragonfly - taste like?
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Tanypteryx
Member Posts: 4451 From: Oregon, USA Joined: 08-27-2006 Member Rating: 5.0
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Message 680 of 1197 (906430)
02-11-2023 6:48 PM
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Reply to: Message 679 by Dredge
02-11-2023 6:46 PM
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Re: Typical?
Cinnamon.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty PythonOne important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Dredge
Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: 09-06-2016
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Re: Typical?
Fascinating. Is that why you argue that dragonflies evolved from cinnamon?
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Stile
Member Posts: 4295 From: Ontario, Canada Joined: 12-02-2004
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Message 682 of 1197 (906517)
02-13-2023 10:13 AM
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Reply to: Message 585 by Dredge
02-06-2023 9:29 AM
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Dredge writes: Life has meaning only if it's eternal. If you require life to be eternal just so that it can have meaning - then you are clearly egotistical and without honour. Honour is doing the right thing just because it's the right thing. -not because someone told you to -not because "it's eternal" Having meaning in something because it's eternal is easy - anyone can do that. Having meaning in something because it's limited is difficult. -maybe no one else knows you did it -maybe no one will remember you did it in 100 years But if you're honourable, and do it anyway - this becomes more meaningful than a simple/easy "eternal" meaning that everyone's going to see and understand.
A finite life is as meaningless as meaningless can get. If one is honourable, a finite life is more meaningful than any eternal life could ever hope for.
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Dredge
Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: 09-06-2016
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Message 683 of 1197 (906553)
02-13-2023 12:18 PM
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Reply to: Message 682 by Stile
02-13-2023 10:13 AM
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Stale writes: Honour is doing the right thing just because it's the right thing.
If this life is all there is, honour and doing the right thing are as meaningless as dishonour and doing the wrong thing.
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Dredge
Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: 09-06-2016
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Message 684 of 1197 (906554)
02-13-2023 12:25 PM
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Reply to: Message 682 by Stile
02-13-2023 10:13 AM
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Stale writes: If one is honourable, a finite life is more meaningful than any eternal life could ever hope for.
I wonder if any human being has ever uttered anything stupider than that.
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AZPaul3
Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: 11-06-2006 Member Rating: 4.7
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Message 685 of 1197 (906557)
02-13-2023 12:38 PM
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Reply to: Message 684 by Dredge
02-13-2023 12:25 PM
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I wonder if any human being has ever uttered anything stupider than that. Read your own posts.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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Stile
Member Posts: 4295 From: Ontario, Canada Joined: 12-02-2004
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Message 686 of 1197 (906561)
02-13-2023 1:00 PM
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Reply to: Message 683 by Dredge
02-13-2023 12:18 PM
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No need to be so self-centered
Dredge writes: If this life is all there is, honour and doing the right thing are as meaningless as dishonour and doing the wrong thing. Why would you think that? Only if you need someone else around to remember what you did - only if you're egotistical. If you're able to put your ego aside, and just look at the situation, it's obvious that doing something when no one is looking/knows is more meaningful then doing it for recognition. Therefore - if this life is all there is, what we do is more meaningful - and more honourable - then if life is eternal.
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Dredge
Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: 09-06-2016
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Message 687 of 1197 (906562)
02-13-2023 1:09 PM
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Reply to: Message 686 by Stile
02-13-2023 1:00 PM
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Re: No need to be so self-centered
Why do what is honourable and right if you want to do what is dishonourable and wrong?
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Dredge
Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: 09-06-2016
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Message 688 of 1197 (906563)
02-13-2023 1:10 PM
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Reply to: Message 685 by AZPaul3
02-13-2023 12:38 PM
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I have reported your mean comment to the relevant authorities.
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9201 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.2
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Message 689 of 1197 (906568)
02-13-2023 1:34 PM
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Reply to: Message 687 by Dredge
02-13-2023 1:09 PM
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Re: No need to be so self-centered
Because I am not a dick, I love my family and I want my friends to like me. You fundies scare me.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Stile
Member Posts: 4295 From: Ontario, Canada Joined: 12-02-2004
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Message 690 of 1197 (906569)
02-13-2023 1:44 PM
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Reply to: Message 687 by Dredge
02-13-2023 1:09 PM
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Re: No need to be so self-centered
Dredge writes: Why do what is honourable and right if you want to do what is dishonourable and wrong? It's pretty simple:
- Doing what's dishonourable and wrong, even if you want to do it, leads to negative consequences from those around you in the form of repercussive actions against you. Maybe issues with friends/family. Maybe issues with work. Maybe issues with the police.
- Depending on how wrong it is, you could end up with some very large, unavoidable consequences. Possibility of being very lonely because no one wants to be around you. Possibility of losing your job and not being able to support yourself. Possibility of going to jail or being forced to pay fines.
- Doing what's dishonourable and wrong, even if it's what you want to do, can make your life very, very difficult to live by your own choices.
These would all be selfish reasons why you should do good things - for the idea of self-preservation.
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