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sensei
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Message 766 of 1197 (906891)
02-16-2023 8:10 PM
Reply to: Message 765 by Taq
02-16-2023 8:04 PM


Re: Typical?
You are now offically a broken record, repeating the same strawman over and over again.
Another dishonest evolutionist, lying to protect their precious false theory.

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Message 767 of 1197 (906893)
02-16-2023 8:12 PM
Reply to: Message 766 by sensei
02-16-2023 8:10 PM


Re: Typical?
sensei writes:
You are now offically a broken record, repeating the same strawman over and over again.
Then explain your position if you think I am misrepresenting it.
Another dishonest evolutionist, lying to protect their precious false theory.
What lie?
"Such variety in one group on the level of orders, but the absence of such in so many other common groups, is evidence of design choice. It does not at all fit the evolution narrative of random mutation upon mutation upon mutation happening in each and every group."
That's what you said, isn't it?

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Message 768 of 1197 (906895)
02-16-2023 8:16 PM
Reply to: Message 767 by Taq
02-16-2023 8:12 PM


Re: Typical?
The lie that I ever made any claim or suggestion that rate of change needing to be exactly the same. I already explained with examples how extremely skewed the distribution is. Keep dodging, so much dishonesty. Wow!

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Message 769 of 1197 (906897)
02-16-2023 8:19 PM
Reply to: Message 768 by sensei
02-16-2023 8:16 PM


Re: Typical?
sensei writes:
The lie that I ever made any claim or suggestion that rate of change needing to be exactly the same. I already explained with examples how extremely skewed the distribution is.
Why is that extreme skew a problem for the theory? You have never explained that.

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Message 770 of 1197 (906899)
02-16-2023 8:28 PM
Reply to: Message 730 by sensei
02-16-2023 2:38 PM


Re: Typical?
Despite it's many weaknesses, atheists have got no choice but to accept the theory of evolution ... in their godless little world, there exists no other possibile explanation for the history of life on earth. Once the Creator is thrown out, all that's left is superstition.

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sensei
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Message 771 of 1197 (906900)
02-16-2023 8:31 PM
Reply to: Message 769 by Taq
02-16-2023 8:19 PM


Re: Typical?
It's a problem because of probability. I suggest you go back to school and learn math and statistics, before participating in a science forum.

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Message 772 of 1197 (906902)
02-16-2023 8:34 PM
Reply to: Message 771 by sensei
02-16-2023 8:31 PM


Re: Typical?
Oh this is going to be fun. Going to get some popcorn now. Glad I reserved a front row seat.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Tanypteryx
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Message 773 of 1197 (906903)
02-16-2023 8:35 PM
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02-16-2023 8:28 PM


Re: Typical?
Once the Creator is thrown out, all that's left is superstition.
Your creator is superstitious fiction, so not worth the bother to throw out. ALL the evidence supports the Theory of Evolution.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Dredge
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Message 774 of 1197 (906904)
02-16-2023 8:36 PM
Reply to: Message 740 by Taq
02-16-2023 3:54 PM


Re: Typical?
Taq writes:
Those species fit into a nested hierarchy which is evidence against design choice.
So God could create the universe out of nothing, create stars and planets and create life on earth ... but God could not create a nested hierarchy? Fascinating.

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Message 775 of 1197 (906905)
02-16-2023 8:37 PM
Reply to: Message 771 by sensei
02-16-2023 8:31 PM


Re: Typical?
sensei writes:
It's a problem because of probability.
How so? Spell it out.

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Message 776 of 1197 (906906)
02-16-2023 8:37 PM
Reply to: Message 774 by Dredge
02-16-2023 8:36 PM


Re: Typical?
Dredge writes:
So God could create the universe out of nothing, create stars and planets and create life on earth ... but God could not create a nested hierarchy?
God could not create species so they don't fit into a nested hierarchy?

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Tanypteryx
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Message 777 of 1197 (906907)
02-16-2023 8:39 PM
Reply to: Message 774 by Dredge
02-16-2023 8:36 PM


Re: Typical?
So God could create the universe out of nothing, create stars and planets and create life on earth ... but God could not create a nested hierarchy?
No, because it's fiction.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Theodoric
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Message 778 of 1197 (906908)
02-16-2023 8:42 PM
Reply to: Message 774 by Dredge
02-16-2023 8:36 PM


Re: Typical?
Your god is Loki the trickster?
Why would your god want to trick his creations?

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Message 779 of 1197 (906909)
02-16-2023 8:50 PM
Reply to: Message 738 by sensei
02-16-2023 3:45 PM


Re: Typical?
sensei writes:
The life tree is not one of evolution.
The Cambrian explosion destroys Darwin's single tree of life. Instead of one tree, the fossil record reveals many separates trees, which represent the many phyla that appeared during the Cambrian.
That's why the evolution-obsessed scientific community does its best to sweep the Cambrian explosion under the carpet... it (a) doesn't fit their beloved theory and (b) it defies scientific explanation.
Unfortunately, evolution science doesn't consider honesty very important.

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sensei
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Message 780 of 1197 (906911)
02-16-2023 8:52 PM
Reply to: Message 778 by Theodoric
02-16-2023 8:42 PM


Re: Typical?
You are tricking yourself by following false theories based on weak logic.

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