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sensei Member (Idle past 307 days) Posts: 482 Joined: |
You made assumptions / claims about gaps if species were created seperately.
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sensei Member (Idle past 307 days) Posts: 482 Joined: |
Saying that natural selection did it over time, is not filling any gaps.
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Taq Member Posts: 10392 Joined: Member Rating: 5.5 |
sensei writes: Saying that natural selection did it over time, is not filling any gaps. These do. ![]() Also, we have mountains of evidence demonstrating that natural selection is responsible for shaping the genomes of species. We aren't just saying it. We can point to the evidence. If an observable and testable natural process does not fill gaps in explanations, then what in the world are you asking for?
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Taq Member Posts: 10392 Joined: Member Rating: 5.5
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sensei writes: You made assumptions / claims about gaps if species were created seperately. Your inability to tell us why we would expect gaps between two specific species groups but not two others is the evidence. Creationists have never been able to explain what pattern of derived features we should see in living and fossil species if species were created separately. The only explanation that predicts a specific pattern is evolution, and only with a predicted pattern can we identify gaps.
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sensei Member (Idle past 307 days) Posts: 482 Joined: |
How do a bunch of skulls fill the gaps of complex proteins?
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sensei Member (Idle past 307 days) Posts: 482 Joined: |
Whatever creationists can or cannot explain or have not explained, does not excuse you from making correct assumptions instead of bad and false ones.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8731 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.1 |
What bad and false assumptions are being made? How do you know they are bad assumptions?
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sensei Member (Idle past 307 days) Posts: 482 Joined: |
Assumptions about how life should look like if species were created seperately. All those are speculation and have zero objective value.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8731 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.1
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So the nested hierarchy is the only pattern we see in life. So evolution is evidenced once again.
You can provide no evidence or acceptable logic to show any alternative. Evolution is the only real game in town.Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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Granny Magda Member (Idle past 397 days) Posts: 2462 From: UK Joined:
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Hi sensei,
Assumptions about how life should look like if species were created seperately. All those are speculation and have zero objective value. That sounds an awful lot like an admission that creationism and ID make no testable predictions. That would make them unfalsifiable. This is, to put it mildly, not a plus, especially if you want these ideas to be taken seriously in the scientific world, where all hypotheses must be falsifiable. Or perhaps I have misunderstood. If so, please clarify; what predictions does your model of special creation make? How do these predictions differ from those of the mainstream model? Mutate and SurviveOn two occasions I have been asked, – "Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?" ... I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. - Charles Babbage
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Phat Member Posts: 18740 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3 |
Hi Granny. Long time no see. Did you bring us an apple pie?
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Granny Magda Member (Idle past 397 days) Posts: 2462 From: UK Joined:
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Hi Phat,
Nope. No apple pie for diabetics like us! Mutate and SurviveOn two occasions I have been asked, – "Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?" ... I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. - Charles Babbage
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sensei Member (Idle past 307 days) Posts: 482 Joined: |
Whether or not you think a different model if falsifiable, is no excuse for making speculative claims and call it science.
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sensei Member (Idle past 307 days) Posts: 482 Joined: |
If that is all you see, then your knowledge is very limited.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8731 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.1 |
If that is all you see, then your knowledge is very limited. Reality does indeed place limits on our knowledge. No religious fantasies allowed.Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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