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Author Topic:   Is ID falsifiable by any kind of experiment?
sensei
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Message 421 of 507 (908578)
03-16-2023 6:50 PM
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03-16-2023 6:47 PM


Re: dishonesty is not a good look
Your ignorance and poor understanding of my evidence have been noted.

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Taq
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Message 422 of 507 (908580)
03-16-2023 6:51 PM
Reply to: Message 421 by sensei
03-16-2023 6:50 PM


Re: dishonesty is not a good look
sensei writes:
Your ignorance and poor understanding of my evidence have been noted.
What evidence is that?

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AZPaul3
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Message 423 of 507 (908581)
03-16-2023 6:52 PM
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03-16-2023 6:50 PM


Re: dishonesty is not a good look
Evidence? What evidence?

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Tanypteryx
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Message 424 of 507 (908585)
03-16-2023 8:15 PM
Reply to: Message 413 by sensei
03-16-2023 6:32 PM


Re: dishonesty is not a good look
sensi writes:
There are things that show tree patterns, but these things have not evolved
Is there any chance you could give us a specific example?

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Dredge
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Message 425 of 507 (908607)
03-17-2023 1:50 AM
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03-10-2023 4:31 AM


Re: dishonesty is not a good look
Parasomnium writes:
The fact that different methods point to the same result, even before DNA-sequencing, is pretty strong evidence that the conclusion of common descent is warranted.
Common descent is best scientific explanation, but the truth could be quite different and beyond scientific explanation. We'll never know the truth.

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Taq
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Message 426 of 507 (908617)
03-17-2023 11:13 AM
Reply to: Message 425 by Dredge
03-17-2023 1:50 AM


Re: dishonesty is not a good look
Dredge writes:
Common descent is best scientific explanation, but the truth could be quite different and beyond scientific explanation. We'll never know the truth.
Thank you for confirming that you couldn't care less what the evidence is.

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sensei
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Message 427 of 507 (908632)
03-18-2023 4:52 AM
Reply to: Message 424 by Tanypteryx
03-16-2023 8:15 PM


Re: dishonesty is not a good look
Just look for nested tree hierarchical clustering on google images.

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Message 428 of 507 (908635)
03-18-2023 8:50 AM
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03-18-2023 4:52 AM


Re: dishonesty is not a good look
So you can not. Good to know. Move along.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Dredge
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Message 429 of 507 (908637)
03-18-2023 10:58 AM
Reply to: Message 426 by Taq
03-17-2023 11:13 AM


Re: dishonesty is not a good look
It's not my fault that the truth can never be known.

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Tanypteryx
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Message 430 of 507 (908639)
03-18-2023 11:28 AM
Reply to: Message 427 by sensei
03-18-2023 4:52 AM


Re: dishonesty is not a good look
Tanypteryx writes:
sensi writes:
There are things that show tree patterns, but these things have not evolved
Is there any chance you could give us a specific example?
sensei writes:
Just look for nested tree hierarchical clustering on google images.
Ah, so you're just BSing us and you are just making it up as you go along. You can't even actually show us a single actual example.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 431 of 507 (908754)
03-20-2023 10:42 AM
Reply to: Message 429 by Dredge
03-18-2023 10:58 AM


Re: dishonesty is not a good look
Dredge writes:
It's not my fault that the truth can never be known.
Evidence can be known.

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AZPaul3
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Message 432 of 507 (908775)
03-20-2023 1:19 PM
Reply to: Message 429 by Dredge
03-18-2023 10:58 AM


Re: dishonesty is not a good look
The truth is known. You just refuse to see it since it contradicts your religious fantasy.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Dredge
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Message 433 of 507 (908898)
03-22-2023 11:41 PM
Reply to: Message 432 by AZPaul3
03-20-2023 1:19 PM


Re: dishonesty is not a good look
Sadly, your fever has returned.

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Dredge
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Message 434 of 507 (908917)
03-23-2023 1:45 PM
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03-20-2023 1:19 PM


Re: dishonesty is not a good look
APauling666 writes:
The truth is known.
Your Darwinoid lies don't fool me. Sorry.

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Dredge
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Message 435 of 507 (908918)
03-23-2023 1:54 PM
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03-20-2023 10:42 AM


Re: dishonesty is not a good look
Consider an object in a sealed box. Evidence can be gathered as to what the object might be, but without opening the box, the truth of what the object actually is can never be known.

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