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Topic: COVID vaccine works - we're saved!
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Kleinman
Member (Idle past 364 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: 10-06-2016
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Message 781 of 1110 (910034)
04-15-2023 11:47 AM
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Reply to: Message 780 by xongsmith
04-15-2023 11:38 AM
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Re: The Right to Spread Disease
xongsmith continues to have difficulty posting the data that general usage of masks was effective in preventing the spread of Covid (or any other infectious disease).
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vimesey
Member (Idle past 102 days) Posts: 1398 From: Birmingham, England Joined: 09-21-2011
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Message 782 of 1110 (910038)
04-15-2023 12:58 PM
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Reply to: Message 781 by Kleinman
04-15-2023 11:47 AM
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Re: The Right to Spread Disease
Took me all of 60 seconds to find this study in The Lancet: https://www.sciencedirect.com/...ticle/pii/S0140673620311429 The data show that masks help to reduce the spread of covid, which helped whilst the vaccine was developed. Are you genuinely too scared of being shown to be wrong to do your own research ? On the plus side, it's a lot of fun seeing you constantly try to support your fantasies through unevidenced denial and misapplied mathematics.
Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?
| This message is a reply to: | | | Message 781 by Kleinman, posted 04-15-2023 11:47 AM | | Kleinman has replied |
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Kleinman
Member (Idle past 364 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: 10-06-2016
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Message 783 of 1110 (910039)
04-15-2023 1:07 PM
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Reply to: Message 782 by vimesey
04-15-2023 12:58 PM
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Re: The Right to Spread Disease
vimesey:
Took me all of 60 seconds to find this study in The Lancet:
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https://www.sciencedirect.com/...ticle/pii/S0140673620311429
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The data show that masks help to reduce the spread of covid, which helped whilst the vaccine was developed.
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Are you genuinely too scared of being shown to be wrong to do your own research ?
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On the plus side, it's a lot of fun seeing you constantly try to support your fantasies through unevidenced denial and misapplied mathematics.
Where in your quote do you post the data that shows that the general usage of masks was effective in preventing the spread of Covid (or any other infectious disease).
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xongsmith
Member Posts: 2587 From: massachusetts US Joined: 01-01-2009 Member Rating: 6.4
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Message 784 of 1110 (910040)
04-15-2023 1:17 PM
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Reply to: Message 781 by Kleinman
04-15-2023 11:47 AM
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Re: The Right to Spread Disease
Stupid Asshole fails to read again:
difficulty posting the data that general usage of masks was effective You might review my comments about the nursing profession regarding flu seasons. BTW that is "continues to be effective', not "was". I mask up whenever i expect to circulate among others. Masking is hard to get people to do right and is more to protect you from infecting others (kind the subject of this subthread) than it is to protect you, although that is a nice benefit on the side! One of the better cartoons i saw on this was 2 guys naked with one guy peeing on the other in frame 1. frame 2 has the other guy now wearing pants. but frame 3 has the peeing guy also wearing pants for the better outcome. kinda ignores the guy needing to pee there in the first place, but makes the point. Do both! Wear the mask and get the Fauci Ouchie! Squash that chance of getting COVID, maybe not to 0% but close enough. Edited by xongsmith, : forgot Fauci's excellent work over the decades
"I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside." Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned! Enjoy every sandwich! - xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale
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vimesey
Member (Idle past 102 days) Posts: 1398 From: Birmingham, England Joined: 09-21-2011
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Message 785 of 1110 (910041)
04-15-2023 1:22 PM
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Reply to: Message 783 by Kleinman
04-15-2023 1:07 PM
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Re: The Right to Spread Disease
It's in the posted piece. Read it.
Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?
| This message is a reply to: | | | Message 783 by Kleinman, posted 04-15-2023 1:07 PM | | Kleinman has replied |
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Kleinman
Member (Idle past 364 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: 10-06-2016
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Message 786 of 1110 (910042)
04-15-2023 1:24 PM
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Reply to: Message 784 by xongsmith
04-15-2023 1:17 PM
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Re: The Right to Spread Disease
xongsmith still can't post the data that the general usage of masks prevents the spread of Covid or any other infectious disease.
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Tanypteryx
Member Posts: 4451 From: Oregon, USA Joined: 08-27-2006 Member Rating: 5.0
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Message 787 of 1110 (910043)
04-15-2023 1:25 PM
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Reply to: Message 781 by Kleinman
04-15-2023 11:47 AM
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Re: The Right to Spread Disease
Next Kleinman will explain how properly worn masks cause diseases and how they are in fact, the cause of all diseases, but first he's going to shove a UV laser up his ass.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty PythonOne important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Kleinman
Member (Idle past 364 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: 10-06-2016
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Message 788 of 1110 (910044)
04-15-2023 1:35 PM
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Reply to: Message 785 by vimesey
04-15-2023 1:22 PM
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Re: The Right to Spread Disease
vimesey:
It's in the posted piece. Read it.
From your link:
Interpretation The findings of this systematic review and meta-analysis support physical distancing of 1 m or more and provide quantitative estimates for models and contact tracing to inform policy. Optimum use of face masks, respirators, and eye protection in public and health-care settings should be informed by these findings and contextual factors. Robust randomised trials are needed to better inform the evidence for these interventions, but this systematic appraisal of currently best available evidence might inform interim guidance.
And why can't you post the data that shows that the general usage of masks prevented the spread of Covid or any other infectious disease? If you have the data, post it, but you don't have the data. Perhaps you think everyone should wear hazmat suits?
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| Replies to this message: | | | Message 794 by vimesey, posted 04-15-2023 2:56 PM | | Kleinman has replied |
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Kleinman
Member (Idle past 364 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: 10-06-2016
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Re: The Right to Spread Disease
Tanypteryx:
Next Kleinman will explain how properly worn masks cause diseases and how they are in fact, the cause of all diseases, but first he's going to shove a UV laser up his ass.
I'll do that right after you explain how descent with modification and adaptation works. Show us how well-trained a biologist is in science and mathematics. And Tany can't post the data that shows that the general usage of masks prevents the spread of Covid or any other infectious disease either.
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Tanypteryx
Member Posts: 4451 From: Oregon, USA Joined: 08-27-2006 Member Rating: 5.0
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Message 790 of 1110 (910046)
04-15-2023 1:48 PM
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Reply to: Message 789 by Kleinman
04-15-2023 1:41 PM
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Re: The Right to Spread Disease
And Kleinman says masks cause all disease.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty PythonOne important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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| Replies to this message: | | | Message 791 by Kleinman, posted 04-15-2023 2:03 PM | | Tanypteryx has replied |
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Kleinman
Member (Idle past 364 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: 10-06-2016
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Re: The Right to Spread Disease
Tanypteryx:
And Kleinman says masks cause all disease.
I don't say that Tany, I say that you are the typical biologist that doesn't understand how biological evolution works. Of course, you could prove me wrong by explaining how descent with modification and adaptation works. But to do that, you would need some scientific and mathematical training which you haven't gotten. And you still don't post the data that shows that the general usage of masks prevented the spread of Covid or any other infectious diseases.
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Tanypteryx
Member Posts: 4451 From: Oregon, USA Joined: 08-27-2006 Member Rating: 5.0
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Message 792 of 1110 (910048)
04-15-2023 2:08 PM
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Reply to: Message 791 by Kleinman
04-15-2023 2:03 PM
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Re: The Right to Spread Disease
Of course you do. Next you'll tell us all about the covid vaccines killing everyone who received it. It's in the math.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty PythonOne important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Kleinman
Member (Idle past 364 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: 10-06-2016
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Re: The Right to Spread Disease
Tanypteryx:
Of course you do. Next you'll tell us all about the covid vaccines killing everyone who received it. It's in the math.
Tany can't post any data that shows that the general usage of masks prevented the spread of Covid or any other infectious diseases, nor can he post any quotes of me where I've said anything that he claims I've said. Too bad Tany can't explain how descent with modification and adaptation works, but that should be expected, he was trained as a biologist.
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vimesey
Member (Idle past 102 days) Posts: 1398 From: Birmingham, England Joined: 09-21-2011
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Message 794 of 1110 (910050)
04-15-2023 2:56 PM
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Reply to: Message 788 by Kleinman
04-15-2023 1:35 PM
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Re: The Right to Spread Disease
Masks don't PREVENT disease spreading you spectacular idiot - they REDUCE it spreading - as per the piece you read. How many more of your lies and misdirections do you want to spread, just to keep your sad religious fantasy going ?
Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?
| This message is a reply to: | | | Message 788 by Kleinman, posted 04-15-2023 1:35 PM | | Kleinman has replied |
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xongsmith
Member Posts: 2587 From: massachusetts US Joined: 01-01-2009 Member Rating: 6.4
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Message 795 of 1110 (910052)
04-15-2023 2:58 PM
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Reply to: Message 793 by Kleinman
04-15-2023 2:16 PM
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Re: The Right to Spread Disease
the Stupid Asshole doesn't realize that we're all making fun of him. ooops...did i give us away?
"I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside." Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned! Enjoy every sandwich! - xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale
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