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Topic: COVID vaccine works - we're saved!
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Tanypteryx
Member Posts: 4451 From: Oregon, USA Joined: 08-27-2006 Member Rating: 5.0
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Message 796 of 1110 (910053)
04-15-2023 3:01 PM
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Reply to: Message 795 by xongsmith
04-15-2023 2:58 PM
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Re: The Right to Spread Disease
ooops...did i give us away? Naw, his self awareness follows the multiplication rule.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty PythonOne important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Kleinman
Member (Idle past 364 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: 10-06-2016
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Message 797 of 1110 (910054)
04-15-2023 3:40 PM
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Reply to: Message 794 by vimesey
04-15-2023 2:56 PM
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Re: The Right to Spread Disease
vimesey:
Masks don't PREVENT disease spreading you spectacular idiot - they REDUCE it spreading - as per the piece you read.
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How many more of your lies and misdirections do you want to spread, just to keep your sad religious fantasy going ?
Post the data that shows how much the general usage of masks REDUCED the spreading of Covid or any other infectious disease.
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Kleinman
Member (Idle past 364 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: 10-06-2016
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Message 798 of 1110 (910055)
04-15-2023 3:41 PM
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Reply to: Message 795 by xongsmith
04-15-2023 2:58 PM
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Re: The Right to Spread Disease
xongsmith:
the Stupid Asshole doesn't realize that we're all making fun of him.
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ooops...did i give us away?
xongsmith makes fun of me rather than post the data that shows that the general usage of masks had any significant effect on the spread of Covid or any other infectious disease.
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Kleinman
Member (Idle past 364 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: 10-06-2016
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Re: The Right to Spread Disease
xongsmith:
ooops...did i give us away?Tanypteryx:
Naw, his self awareness follows the multiplication rule.
Tany is getting closer to a correct explanation of descent with modification and adaptation by recognizing the effect of the multiplication rule. He may one day understand how biological evolution works. He certainly wasn't trained properly in his biology courses. Edited by Kleinman, : Correct wording
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vimesey
Member (Idle past 102 days) Posts: 1398 From: Birmingham, England Joined: 09-21-2011
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Message 800 of 1110 (910057)
04-15-2023 3:43 PM
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Reply to: Message 797 by Kleinman
04-15-2023 3:40 PM
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Re: The Right to Spread Disease
I did, you idiot - read the article !
Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?
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Kleinman
Member (Idle past 364 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: 10-06-2016
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Message 801 of 1110 (910058)
04-15-2023 3:48 PM
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Reply to: Message 800 by vimesey
04-15-2023 3:43 PM
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Re: The Right to Spread Disease
vimesey:
I did, you idiot - read the article !
Post from your link the data which shows how much general mask-wearing REDUCED the spreading of Covid.
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Tangle
Member Posts: 9514 From: UK Joined: 10-07-2011 Member Rating: 4.8
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Message 802 of 1110 (910062)
04-15-2023 5:19 PM
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This continuous request for the actual data underpinning peer reviewed, high level, meta analyses is sort of interesting. I've only published one scientific papers and have never been asked for the data underlying it, nor would I share that data with anyone but another scientist that had a relevant qualification and legitimate interest in my exact field of study. There's no way I'd release my data to an obvious religionist fuckwit like kleinman. I suspect that this continued requirement for the impossible is from previous attempts by kleinman to get recognition for his error ridden ideas. Real scientist doing real science have shunned him, other forums have banned him so he's here tormenting half a dozen aged atheists. I suppose he gets his narcissistic kicks wherever he can.
Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine. "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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Kleinman
Member (Idle past 364 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: 10-06-2016
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Message 803 of 1110 (910065)
04-15-2023 5:47 PM
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Reply to: Message 802 by Tangle
04-15-2023 5:19 PM
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Tangle:
This continuous request for the actual data underpinning peer reviewed, high level, meta analyses is sort of interesting.
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I've only published one scientific papers and have never been asked for the data underlying it, nor would I share that data with anyone but another scientist that had a relevant qualification and legitimate interest in my exact field of study. There's no way I'd release my data to an obvious religionist fuckwit like kleinman.
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I suspect that this continued requirement for the impossible is from previous attempts by kleinman to get recognition for his error ridden ideas. Real scientist doing real science have shunned him, other forums have banned him so he's here tormenting half a dozen aged atheists. I suppose he gets his narcissistic kicks wherever he can.
So, it is impossible for you to post the data that shows that general mask usage reduces the spread of Covid. The reason is that you don't have the data. Is it possible for you to find any errors in the math that I've presented that describes descent with modification and adaptation and accurately describe the Kishony and Lenski biological evolutionary experiments? And where is your mathematical explanation for descent with modification and adaptation? Why does it take a billion replications for each adaptive mutational step in these experiments? You can't do this either because you don't understand how biological evolution works. You don't understand why different trivalent influenza are used every year and why covid vaccines are not 100% effective. You are very poorly trained in biological and physical sciences and mathematics.
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Tanypteryx
Member Posts: 4451 From: Oregon, USA Joined: 08-27-2006 Member Rating: 5.0
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Message 804 of 1110 (910066)
04-15-2023 6:16 PM
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Reply to: Message 802 by Tangle
04-15-2023 5:19 PM
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aged atheists Who are you calling old?
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty PythonOne important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Kleinman
Member (Idle past 364 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: 10-06-2016
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Tangle:
aged atheistsTanypteryx:
Who are you calling old?
Your ideas and thinking are old and obsolete.
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Tanypteryx
Member Posts: 4451 From: Oregon, USA Joined: 08-27-2006 Member Rating: 5.0
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Message 806 of 1110 (910068)
04-15-2023 6:44 PM
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Reply to: Message 805 by Kleinman
04-15-2023 6:41 PM
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You have absolutely no knowledge of my ideas or thinking.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty PythonOne important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Kleinman
Member (Idle past 364 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: 10-06-2016
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Tanypteryx:
You have absolutely no knowledge of my ideas or thinking.
Don't you think that reptiles evolve into birds and fish evolve into mammals? And we know that you have no idea how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail. And you can't post the data that shows the general use of masks reduces the spread of covid. Tany, you are poorly trained in biological and physical science, and mathematics.
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Tanypteryx
Member Posts: 4451 From: Oregon, USA Joined: 08-27-2006 Member Rating: 5.0
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Message 808 of 1110 (910070)
04-15-2023 7:29 PM
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Reply to: Message 807 by Kleinman
04-15-2023 7:16 PM
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Like I said, you have no knowledge about my ideas or my thinking. You are an incompetent who's feeling are hurt because all rational scientists reject your flawed bullshit. You're a quack.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty PythonOne important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Kleinman
Member (Idle past 364 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: 10-06-2016
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Tanypteryx:
Like I said, you have no knowledge about my ideas or my thinking. You are an incompetent who's feeling are hurt because all rational scientists reject your flawed bullshit. You're a quack.
Tany, you are poorly trained in biological and physical science, and mathematics. You can't explain the simplest example of biological evolution. You can't present the data that shows that the general use of masks reduces the spread of Covid. All you have are obsolete, old ideas that don't explain how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail. You are wrong.
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vimesey
Member (Idle past 102 days) Posts: 1398 From: Birmingham, England Joined: 09-21-2011
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Message 810 of 1110 (910075)
04-16-2023 8:32 AM
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Reply to: Message 801 by Kleinman
04-15-2023 3:48 PM
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Re: The Right to Spread Disease
Oh I'm not going to that much effort, just for you to spin your lies and deny the evidence once I've done so. I've done my part in pointing you in the direction of the paper - time for you to put in some effort and read the paper, its data and its conclusions.
Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?
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