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Message 340 of 473 (908979)
03-25-2023 11:14 AM
Reply to: Message 339 by Theodoric
03-24-2023 12:22 PM


Re: Count all taxes not just income tax
Why should one party in a two party system control the amount of tax that ALL of the people must pay? If the tables were turned, you wouldnt like it either. You would likely prefer supporting your own causes.

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Message 342 of 473 (908983)
03-25-2023 2:09 PM
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03-25-2023 12:10 PM


Re: Count all taxes not just income tax
Listen Jones...YOU will be the snowflake whining when the Populists get back in power and wreck your overpriced green dream.

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Message 347 of 473 (908999)
03-26-2023 9:32 AM
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03-25-2023 8:41 PM


Re: Count all taxes not just income tax
Don't you think that I know this? It scares the hell out of me.

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Message 355 of 473 (911310)
06-24-2023 3:56 PM
Reply to: Message 351 by Percy
03-28-2023 10:40 AM


Any Comments On Hunter Biden Plea Deal?
I get mixed messages in the news. From peanut gallery perspective, what facts were brought forth?
Seems to me that a son that struggled with coke addiction said some things he shouldnt have said...which were recorded...and made his old man out to be a bit of a mafia don. If so, I can agree with you that Biden is not as authoritarian as Trump, but I hardly think he is one of our best presidents. He seems a bit senile to me.
Comments?

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Message 359 of 473 (911324)
06-26-2023 12:49 PM
Reply to: Message 358 by Percy
06-25-2023 10:24 PM


Re: Any Comments On Hunter Biden Plea Deal?
Percy writes:
You're referring to when Hunter Biden sent this WhatsApp message to Chinese business contact Henry Zhao, director of Harvest Fund Management
Essentially yes.
Percy writes:
The Hunter Biden plea deal involved two crimes. One was for underpayment of taxes by about $1 million, which he repaid several years ago, and the other was for lying on a gun application about his problems with drugs. There's an ongoing debate about whether he got off easy or not, and a couple of whistleblowers are accusing the Biden justice department of slow-walking the process.
So essentially that's all that there is to it?
Percy writes:
To me he seems pretty much like the same gaffe-prone politician he's always been with political views that have been largely stable over the years. On a scale of Trump to Lincoln, where would you put Biden? I'd rate him around a Coolidge, Carter or Ford.
​I remember both Ford and Carter. They both were president during times of inflation. Nowadays seems so much differnt in regards to what our government does and does not do.
I think it is the people who have changed. Americans seem insecure about a lot of things. I know I am, but part of my problem is that I'm in need of more help than I used to be and that things are getting so expensive relative to income. I don't think that the US is in a good position for continuing to print money to cover its obligations. If Trump is our only solution, we ALL are in big trouble.
"I AM THE ONLY ONE": TRUMPS MESSIANIC 2024 MESSAGE
But let's discuss THAT in the Fascism thread. Message 359

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Message 361 of 473 (911329)
06-26-2023 2:28 PM
Reply to: Message 360 by Diomedes
06-26-2023 1:30 PM


Are Things The Same As They Have Always Been?
What has changed is that we have substantially more access to information and an ongoing 24 hr news cycle. Couple that with social media, and it gives the impression that things are horrible and getting worse. They are not.
I think they are. Am I simply deluded by propaganda? Percy thinks every YouTube video is worthless, but Im not convinced.

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Message 367 of 473 (911349)
06-27-2023 6:56 PM
Reply to: Message 365 by Diomedes
06-27-2023 9:19 AM


Re: Are Things The Same As They Have Always Been?
Diomedes writes:
If you start going down the rabbit hole of looking into things such as Amercian debt, fiat currencies, the gold standard, etc, the algorithms will then continue to serve up additional articles and videos that align with those interests. What this does is give the impression that there are serious issues in those areas due to the sheer volume of data you are getting. But in the end, its just the same information being regurgitated from different individuals and mediums. What the algorithms are essentially doing is playing into something called 'confirmation bias'. Whereby if you already have made up your mind about something or are leaning in that direction, you will be continually served up information that corroborates those claims, even if most of them don't hold water.
Actually, that makes a lot of sense. Thanks for taking the time to give me some positive feedback.
Now that I think of it, that explains a lot of my YouTube interactions. I DO suffer from confirmation bias, and like many literalist believers, tie it all into what I've been led fed to believe anyway. I suppose, upon reflection, that it is wise to be skeptical...even of the beliefs and confirmed biases which I already hold.
My essential battle around here is basically being told to utilize critical thinking, throw away prior assumptions and beliefs, and look at life from other angles and perspectives.
Something in me resists that. I have always believed in Jesus and have resisted "throwing Him away" as jar used to coach me to do and which many here at EvC easily did do.
Perhaps, if I were my own counselor and critic, I would ask myself why I am prone to believe that things are getting worse. Your algorithmic explanation is one answer.

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Message 368 of 473 (911350)
06-27-2023 7:09 PM
Reply to: Message 366 by dwise1
06-27-2023 12:21 PM


Re: Are Things The Same As They Have Always Been?
dwise1 writes:
And Phat should already be familiar with Mr. Deity's replies to videos from "Prager University" ("My old alma mater ... Go Devils!").
OK, fair enough. But do you think that Dennis Prager spreads false information? Or is it simply a counter-perspective to progressive thinking?
And to me, Mr. Deity is humorous at best, and inexperienced at worst. After all, how could a Mormon even know Jesus to begin with??? I'm being serious!
Not to suggest that only Calvary Chapel cohorts have an inside track on God's one and only Son.
If Jesus is real, however (which I firmly believe that He is) we need to ask ourselves how He would ever reach a skeptic such as yourself who tossed the Bible aside years ago.
We already know that the peanut gallery suffers from anti-conservative bias, which is perfectly fine.
The problem is that the enemy (that sneaky spirit that God allowed to exist in order to temper us) has also convinced you that Christianity itself is problematic.
I think sometimes that secular humanist critical thinkers conflate conservatism with Christianity and throw the Holy Baby out with the MAGAT bathwater.
In your case, we both can agree that Trump is a potential antichrist candidate.

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Message 372 of 473 (911358)
06-28-2023 2:31 PM
Reply to: Message 366 by dwise1
06-27-2023 12:21 PM


Conservative Vs Liberal: Mr.Deity

Brian Dalton: That's MISTER Deity to You!
I can't hate on Brian Dalton! He seems quite nice. I disagree with his defense of atheism, but why wouldn't I?

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Message 381 of 473 (911410)
07-03-2023 2:54 PM
Reply to: Message 379 by Percy
06-30-2023 11:05 AM


Conservatives, anyone?
Just out of curiousity, whats the difference between a good conservative candidate and a conservative nut? Where do you rate Ted Cruz? Rand Paul? The conservative Kennedy?

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Message 384 of 473 (911431)
07-04-2023 2:04 PM
Reply to: Message 383 by AZPaul3
07-04-2023 1:51 PM


Re: Run, Forest, Run
Looking at the internet I found your exact question in an opinion piece.
Is Kamala Harris really the heir apparent of the Democratic Party?
and noted that in the opinion of the author,
Noah Millman:
Joe Biden has called himself a bridge to a new generation of Democratic leaders — suggesting that he's offering a safe path across, and also that he knows he's not the destination. But a bridge needs an anchor at both ends. Harris still needs to demonstrate that she can be that anchor — that she has a clear and distinct vision for a country that sometimes feels on the verge of cracking up. She may demonstrate that over the next four years — but if she doesn't, she needs to be challenged.
Any challengers that anyone can see? I dont know a lot of charismatic Democrats whom I agree with. (Hopefully they wouldnt pick Alexandra Ocasio Cortez!) But who else do they have?? In order to win, the candidate has to be closer to the center politically.

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Message 386 of 473 (911434)
07-04-2023 2:16 PM
Reply to: Message 382 by Omnivorous
07-03-2023 7:28 PM


Re: Senator Tammy Baldwin
Omni writes:
Why would you call any of these characters a conservative? Is there some common core?
What do you mean? They all have an R next to their name.
Hopefully they dont all represent the Trumpeting Elephant but, rather, the political circus elephant that calmly munches grass while waiting for a feisty liberal to challenge!

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Message 387 of 473 (911435)
07-04-2023 2:19 PM
Reply to: Message 385 by xongsmith
07-04-2023 2:12 PM


Re: Run, Forest, Run
xongsmith writes:
Many are pushing Gavin Newsom, but he is a man. I getting sick and tired of men.
Typical liberal. Throw a new diverse candidate in the ring and push aside all the males who are NOT gay, trans, or men of color. Never mind the credentials apart from repping diversity!!
But then again, I don't really know if Newsom has any credentials either. I need to research the guy.

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Message 389 of 473 (911437)
07-04-2023 2:28 PM
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07-04-2023 2:23 PM


Re: Run, Forest, Run
She is too far to the left.
Add By Edit: I did read about her. She is quite a dynamic individual, though she is as far left as Sanders, which I think means that she wouldn't win a national election.
Im sure that all of you adore her, especially Theo. I dont hate her...but I fear such a strong liberal woman. Am I wrong?

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Message 396 of 473 (911446)
07-04-2023 3:44 PM
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07-04-2023 3:25 PM


Re: quoting
Notice I used the word "liberals" rather than naming anyone. The peanut gallery all fell from the same tree.

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