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Syamsu  Suspended Member (Idle past 5618 days) Posts: 1914 From: amsterdam Joined: |
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Dan Carroll Inactive Member |
quote: And how sad would that be? It would be like a little puppy, whimpering outside in the rain, with nobody stopping to pat him on the head! Well... maybe like David Icke's puppy whimpering outside in the rain. But a sad puppy nonetheless. "Perhaps you should take your furs and your literal interpretations to the other side of the river." -Anya
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Syamsu  Suspended Member (Idle past 5618 days) Posts: 1914 From: amsterdam Joined: |
Oh so then you could reference me a thread on this forum where these interesting subjects are meaningfully debated? No? Where's the appraissal saying that the study of ecology is welldeveloped? Don't have it? You see the vulnerability of Darwinism in regards to this issue?
regards,Mohammad Nor Syamsu
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mark24 Member (Idle past 5223 days) Posts: 3857 From: UK Joined: |
Syamsu,
Oh so then you could reference me a thread on this forum where these interesting subjects are meaningfully debated? How is it possible to have a meaningful debate when anyone who supports their arguments with primary, &/or relevant literature is accused of trickery or lawyering? Mark
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Mammuthus Member (Idle past 6503 days) Posts: 3085 From: Munich, Germany Joined: |
quote: There are none because YOU have always jumped in and made them into a senseless flame war. You obviously have no intention, capacity, or desire to debate subjects such as eugenics, the science of evolution, the definition of natural selection and its impact on ecology. You are simply a dumbass internet troll.
quote:In the books and articles Quetzal and I cited..see what you miss by not reading? There is no excuse for willful ignorance. quote: If the only challenges to the theory of evolution were to come from poorly edcuated, lazy, unread people like you, it would never get properly scrutinized...fortunately there are thousands of scientists worldwide who do apply themselves to the persuit of knowledge...if you ever read you might know this but you rather feel protected in your self erected shield of ignorance. [This message has been edited by Mammuthus, 03-04-2004]
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FreeThinker Inactive Member |
That's quite a poor analogy don't you think?
Also, it's typical of thinkers of a certain persuasion not to offer any real arguments or proof but simply to try and belittle someone else. And it still doesn't prove evolution. Does it?
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Dan Carroll Inactive Member |
quote: 1) All my analogies are poor. Get used to it. 2) Care to explain why, or are we still playing, "I say it, and that makes it so?"
quote: Such as only responding to a point with, "That's quite a poor analogy don't you think?"
quote: I'm sorry, where did I even imply that I was trying to prove evolution in this thread? Oh man, I hope I get used as a new creationist strawman... "Dan Carroll claims to be proving evolution, but all he does is ramble on about Eliza Dushku's boobs! Ms. Dushku's breasts, while impressive, do not constitute proof of evolution..." "Perhaps you should take your furs and your literal interpretations to the other side of the river." -Anya
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Syamsu  Suspended Member (Idle past 5618 days) Posts: 1914 From: amsterdam Joined: |
To make references like that without saying how the references support your opinion that the science of ecology / extinction is well developed is against forum rules. To address your opponent talking about ass all the time is against forum rules.
Note that in one of the books cited, Quetzal wrongly stated that Raup says the study of extinction is well developed, and that the study is only underdeveloped in relation to evolution. So you reference some books none of which support your position that the science is well developed, but Quetzal manages to wrongly interpret one book saying the study of extinction is well developed. You have nothing Mammuthus, is it really so hard to find an appraissal of ecology, or the field of extinction, or are you simply holding back appraissals which don't support you? regards,Mohammad Nor Syamsu
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Dan Carroll Inactive Member |
quote: If the moderators are reading... Syamsu wants the forum rules to be enforced! Don't let him down! "Perhaps you should take your furs and your literal interpretations to the other side of the river." -Anya
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Mammuthus Member (Idle past 6503 days) Posts: 3085 From: Munich, Germany Joined: |
quote: Then stop doing it...particularly referencing things you have not read yourself.
quote: If the shoe fits, you know what to do.
quote: At least Quetzal read the freaking book..you did not, you are in no position to say whether he was right or wrong because you have your head up your rectum and refuse to educate yourself.
quote: You ARE nothing..is it really so hard to read the references that have been posted to you over and over and over? Do you really take such pleasure in being an idiot, spouting lies and unsupported assertions merely because of your pride in your ignorance? Get your head out of your butt..do your homework little man and come back when you are able to support your assertions with more than the books you have NEVER even read.
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Syamsu  Suspended Member (Idle past 5618 days) Posts: 1914 From: amsterdam Joined: |
That's just very insulting and not a very worthwhile contribution at all. You're really incredibly dumb to publicly waste away your credibility and authority on an internetforum like you do.
In reading about evo-devo on the web, I just found out you also misrepresented the evo devo issue somewhere early in this thread. You are the classic example of a scientist who simply assumes everything out of his learned mouth is neutral, but unfortunately your writings are loaded with prejudiced selfserving lies. Pathetic, there's no excuse for it. regards,Mohammad Nor Syamsu
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Mammuthus Member (Idle past 6503 days) Posts: 3085 From: Munich, Germany Joined: |
quote: Fortunately for me then that there are virtually no other scientists here .. However, it is incredibly stupid of you to make assertions publicly on an internet forum about a subject you yourself admit you have no interest in reading about. Some of your fellow intellectuals in Nganjuk may think you start to believe you are both stupid and dishonest.
quote: I love these specific accusations...from reading elsewhere on the web I found out that you rape turtles in the Galapagos on your yearly vacation...but I am too lazy and to intellectually dishonest to go and find the site or the thread that supports my blatant assertion after having trained at the Syamsu School for Bad Faith Debating and Dry Cleaning School for Kids Who Don't Read..but it is true anyway...I would point to the place in the thread where you admit this but the dog ate the webpage.
quote: Show me where I have lied...or did your dog eat that page as well?
quote: You certainly are pathetic...your apparent excuse is that you are too lazy to read a book...guess that technology has not reached the hole you apparently live in.
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Adminnemooseus Administrator Posts: 3976 Joined: |
It's beyond my mental ability to process this topic. As far as I'm concerned, it's a "Free For All" topic.
Perhaps others of the moderating staff have a better grasp of what's going on here. To them I say "Good luck moderating this thing". Adminnemooseus Comments on moderation procedures? - Go to Change in Moderation? or too fast closure of threads
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NosyNed Member Posts: 9004 From: Canada Joined: |
I would suggest that, since it has turned into a bit of a flame war (with more or less creativity in the flames) that it simply be closed.
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Mammuthus Member (Idle past 6503 days) Posts: 3085 From: Munich, Germany Joined: |
The thread has no chance of producing a productive discussion. This is because the initiator of the thread 1) does not know what he is arguing about 2) has claimed he is not interested or willing to put in the time to learn about it 3) has not read any of the works he thinks support his case and 4) refuses to read anything we claim support our points. Multiple participants on this board in multiple threads have attempted to be reasonable with Syamsu. He has shown that he has no interest in following the forum guidelines but wishes to post the same points over and over. He is no better than an internet troll. Either shut the thread down or leave it open for the rest of us to practice new insults. It will never move beyond this until Sy learns to debate..or learns anything for that matter. After over a year at EvC I have zero expectation that Sy is up to the task.
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MrHambre Member (Idle past 1421 days) Posts: 1495 From: Framingham, MA, USA Joined: |
Here are the high points of this soon-to-be-history thread, coming from the poison pen of its founder. It's quite evident that he intended this to be a probing discussion and not just a regurgitation of half-baked ideas we've all heard a million times. I'm sure everyone involved would like to thank you-know-who for his curiosity, his respect for the opinions and expertise of others, and his ability to comprehend and assimilate new ideas.
Syamsu writes: Obviously your prattle contributes nothing of intellectual interest, so please go to the unmoderated talk.origins. I'm quite sure your contributions will be much appreciated there, so why not go? (To Dan Carroll. post #48) Syamsu writes: Ever read a book? (To Truthlover, post #47) Syamsu writes: I consider most of the opinions you gave me as worthless. (To holmes, post #50) Syamsu writes: So supposedly this is a serious reply, but of course it's drivel. (To MrJack, post #51) Syamsu writes: I must remind myself that the authorititive gibbering many people engage in here is mostly empty posing. (To Mark24, post #89) Syamsu writes: I don't clutter things up, it's evolutionists who clutter up threads I post in by giving meaningless, inane and vitriolic responses. (To NosyNed, post #103) Syamsu writes: So do my blundering dectractors have anything to say after I showed that the study of extinction is underdeveloped? (To Mammuthus, post #113) Syamsu writes: You and Dan have produced nothing worthwile at all in this thread, and now you are pedanticly insulted cause I don't answer your lurid vitriol or halfbaked satire. (To Mammuthus, post #198) regards,Esteban "I Read It Somewhere" Hambre
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