Register | Sign In


Understanding through Discussion


EvC Forum active members: 57 (9173 total)
1 online now:
Newest Member: Neptune7
Post Volume: Total: 917,598 Year: 4,855/9,624 Month: 203/427 Week: 13/103 Day: 2/11 Hour: 0/1


Thread  Details

Email This Thread
Newer Topic | Older Topic
  
Author Topic:   COVID vaccine works - we're saved!
Tangle
Member
Posts: 9531
From: UK
Joined: 10-07-2011
Member Rating: 4.9


Message 1081 of 1110 (910639)
05-01-2023 10:17 AM
Reply to: Message 1080 by Percy
05-01-2023 9:01 AM


Re: The Brain and Long Covid
My daughter had COVID very early; March 2023 - she's a teacher surrounded by 5 year old virus generators all day. She lost her sense of taste before it was recognised as a symptom.
It was only in February this year that she said she was back to normal. Prior to that some tastes returned but in weird ways - onions apparently tasted like petrol. Red wine like chocolate.

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine.

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


This message is a reply to:
 Message 1080 by Percy, posted 05-01-2023 9:01 AM Percy has seen this message but not replied

  
Tanypteryx
Member
Posts: 4501
From: Oregon, USA
Joined: 08-27-2006
Member Rating: 4.7


(3)
Message 1082 of 1110 (910640)
05-01-2023 1:12 PM
Reply to: Message 1078 by Admin
05-01-2023 8:12 AM


Re: Moderator Off Duty
he replied with a message showing he understood that what he'd done was so wrong that he could actually commit one last act of damage
Reviewing his posts shows that he actually contributed a tiny smidgen of actual information. It was mostly just the repetitious drone of "math and 2 long term bacterial evolution experiments" and then he misapplies calculations of the mutation rate to a model for all of life.
I don't know how many times he posted links to his "papers" but that seems to be his main purpose here, trying to increase visit stats and citations for his largely ignored work.
The vitriol toward biologists and everyone opposing him was in the basic structure almost every one of his posts and seemed pathological to me. His argument style of Gish Gallop and Trumpian derogatory insults to everyone warranted suspension long ago in my opinion, but I did enjoy watching you toying with him for the last month or so.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


This message is a reply to:
 Message 1078 by Admin, posted 05-01-2023 8:12 AM Admin has seen this message but not replied

  
Tangle
Member
Posts: 9531
From: UK
Joined: 10-07-2011
Member Rating: 4.9


Message 1083 of 1110 (910695)
05-06-2023 4:10 AM


Covid global health emergency is over, WHO says
"Yesterday, the Emergency Committee met for the 15th time and recommended to me that I declare an end to the public health emergency of international concern. I've accepted that advice. It is therefore with great hope that I declare Covid-19 over as a global health emergency," Dr Tedros said.
20m dead.

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine.

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


Replies to this message:
 Message 1084 by AZPaul3, posted 05-06-2023 7:36 AM Tangle has not replied
 Message 1085 by Percy, posted 05-06-2023 10:50 AM Tangle has not replied

  
AZPaul3
Member
Posts: 8593
From: Phoenix
Joined: 11-06-2006
Member Rating: 4.2


Message 1084 of 1110 (910697)
05-06-2023 7:36 AM
Reply to: Message 1083 by Tangle
05-06-2023 4:10 AM


20m dead.
... and counting.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

This message is a reply to:
 Message 1083 by Tangle, posted 05-06-2023 4:10 AM Tangle has not replied

  
Percy
Member
Posts: 22608
From: New Hampshire
Joined: 12-23-2000
Member Rating: 4.7


(1)
Message 1085 of 1110 (910699)
05-06-2023 10:50 AM
Reply to: Message 1083 by Tangle
05-06-2023 4:10 AM


With all the deaths still occurring (covid is expected to be the 3rd leading cause of death in the US this year) it is puzzling that that so many still minimize the threat.
A common argument is that because the elderly, especially those with comorbidities, were the group most affected that the pandemic wasn't really a big deal, but there are several problems with this.
First, the lives of the elderly are valuable, too.
Second, nearly 25% of deaths in the US were of people younger than 65.
Third, long covid is affecting a great many people. Around 30% of those who become ill with covid get long covid, but that includes people who take longer than a few weeks to recover fully. I'd have to guess at how many have permanent long covid, but I would put it at around 10%.
Fourth, they've discovered that covid has a serious neurological component, causing brain damage that people aren't aware of at the time. It is possible that those who think they fully recovered could suffer neurological symptoms and/or deficiencies down the road. For instance, it wouldn't be surprising to find that as people age dementia is found to be more common in those who once had covid.
--Percy

This message is a reply to:
 Message 1083 by Tangle, posted 05-06-2023 4:10 AM Tangle has not replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 1086 by Theodoric, posted 05-06-2023 11:01 AM Percy has seen this message but not replied

  
Theodoric
Member
Posts: 9277
From: Northwest, WI, USA
Joined: 08-15-2005
Member Rating: 2.7


Message 1086 of 1110 (910700)
05-06-2023 11:01 AM
Reply to: Message 1085 by Percy
05-06-2023 10:50 AM


But think about the investors and corporate profits.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


This message is a reply to:
 Message 1085 by Percy, posted 05-06-2023 10:50 AM Percy has seen this message but not replied

  
Percy
Member
Posts: 22608
From: New Hampshire
Joined: 12-23-2000
Member Rating: 4.7


Message 1087 of 1110 (911028)
06-02-2023 3:55 PM


Public Health and Safety
The article https://www.nbcnews.com/...nths-arrest-warrant-was-rcna87372 reports that V.N., a Washington state woman who refused treatment for tuberculosis and refused to isolate, was arrested today. She'll be detained in a "negative pressure" room in the Pierce County jail until her treatment is complete and she's no longer a contagion threat.
About 600 people die of tuberculosis in the US every year. The number would be much higher but for the fact that we take the threat of tuberculosis very seriously and work hard to prevent its spread. But people die of tuberculosis anyway. I just found out yesterday that a former boss, younger than me and in the midst of beginning a high-tech startup, died of tuberculosis last month.
Tuberculosis is an example of government doing what is necessary to maintain public health, and it baffles me that so many people did not want government to do its job in the case of covid, which killed at a rate at least a thousand times higher than tuberculosis in 2020 and 2021.
Likely around 10,000 people will die of covid this year, many, many more than tuberculosis. It is beyond me that the threat doesn't convince people of the need for vaccinations and boosters, and to vote in public officials who work to reduce the likelihood that people could be infected by other members of the public.
--Percy

  
Tangle
Member
Posts: 9531
From: UK
Joined: 10-07-2011
Member Rating: 4.9


Message 1088 of 1110 (911029)
06-02-2023 4:13 PM


I heard yesterday that had the first COVID virus been Omicron instead of Alpha there would have been at least five times more deaths.

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine.

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


  
Porkncheese
Member (Idle past 350 days)
Posts: 198
From: Australia
Joined: 08-25-2017


Message 1089 of 1110 (911420)
07-04-2023 6:17 AM


High deaths from covid injections... The new normal
We are into the 2nd half of 2023 and we are still seeing the same trend across the western world. Deaths at rates never seen before.
But it's not just old people it's middle aged people, young people and children as well. It's a tragedy that began with the covid syringes and is being ignored by our governments.
It's sad really, especially when I personally know so many people hurt and damaged by these toxic syringes. Needless suffering because they were lied to by the government and media.
In Australia the fact that people are dying at a 20% higher rate was brought to the attention of the politicians in parliament. They voted on whether to investigate this trend and most voted no...
That's the smoking gun. As if more evidence was needed. They were happy to destroy the lives of millions when a few old people were dying but don't care now that thousands of young people are dying.
If they really cared for the health of the civilians and had nothing to hide then they would investigate this.
But they're afraid that the truth will be revealed, that these experimental injections are causing much harm, why else would they not investigate this massive rise in deaths?

Replies to this message:
 Message 1090 by Phat, posted 07-04-2023 9:27 AM Porkncheese has not replied
 Message 1091 by AZPaul3, posted 07-04-2023 9:31 AM Porkncheese has not replied
 Message 1093 by Theodoric, posted 07-04-2023 2:05 PM Porkncheese has not replied
 Message 1097 by Percy, posted 07-06-2023 6:47 AM Porkncheese has not replied

  
Phat
Member
Posts: 18388
From: Denver,Colorado USA
Joined: 12-30-2003


Message 1090 of 1110 (911421)
07-04-2023 9:27 AM
Reply to: Message 1089 by Porkncheese
07-04-2023 6:17 AM


Us And Them
Ahhh yes. Mr. Pork N Cheese! You've been squawking on this soapbox for awhile now.
Hows school, by the way? What are you learning about?
We are into the 2nd half of 2023 and we are still seeing the same trend across the western world. Deaths at rates never seen before.
If true, why is the media hiding this story? Where are your sources? And are you suggesting that the government and media are against the interests of the common people?
In Australia the fact that people are dying at a 20% higher rate was brought to the attention of the politicians in parliament. They voted on whether to investigate this trend and most voted no...
But for the sake of argument, lets say you are right. "They" are deceiving us.(We)
We cant trust our government. So...what do you suggest that we do? Overthrow the current governments? Elect a populist? Join Antifa or The Proud Boys?
I would like to hear your solution.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 1089 by Porkncheese, posted 07-04-2023 6:17 AM Porkncheese has not replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 1092 by AZPaul3, posted 07-04-2023 10:10 AM Phat has replied

  
AZPaul3
Member
Posts: 8593
From: Phoenix
Joined: 11-06-2006
Member Rating: 4.2


(3)
Message 1091 of 1110 (911422)
07-04-2023 9:31 AM
Reply to: Message 1089 by Porkncheese
07-04-2023 6:17 AM


Re: High deaths from covid injections... The new normal
Deaths at rates never seen before.
Bullshit.
It's a tragedy that began with the covid syringes and is being ignored by our governments.
Bullshit.
It's sad really, especially when I personally know so many people hurt and damaged by these toxic syringes.
Personal lying bullshit.
In Australia the fact that people are dying at a 20% higher rate was brought to the attention of the politicians in parliament. They voted on whether to investigate this trend and most voted no...
Twisted evidence bullshit.
But they're afraid that the truth will be revealed, that these experimental injections are causing much harm, why else would they not investigate this massive rise in deaths?
Because there is nothing to investigate. Your wet dream here is all bullshit.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

This message is a reply to:
 Message 1089 by Porkncheese, posted 07-04-2023 6:17 AM Porkncheese has not replied

  
AZPaul3
Member
Posts: 8593
From: Phoenix
Joined: 11-06-2006
Member Rating: 4.2


(3)
Message 1092 of 1110 (911423)
07-04-2023 10:10 AM
Reply to: Message 1090 by Phat
07-04-2023 9:27 AM


Re: High deaths from covid injections... The new normal
The article suggests that COVID is NOT the primary culprit.
Pork is trying to lie the continuing covid deaths into vaccine-caused deaths.
Such an obvious subterfuge. The attempt is stupefying.
COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer
COVID-19 vaccine efficacy summary | Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

This message is a reply to:
 Message 1090 by Phat, posted 07-04-2023 9:27 AM Phat has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 1095 by Phat, posted 07-05-2023 11:45 PM AZPaul3 has replied

  
Theodoric
Member
Posts: 9277
From: Northwest, WI, USA
Joined: 08-15-2005
Member Rating: 2.7


(2)
Message 1093 of 1110 (911432)
07-04-2023 2:05 PM
Reply to: Message 1089 by Porkncheese
07-04-2023 6:17 AM


Re: High deaths from covid injections... The new normal
Provide a source.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


This message is a reply to:
 Message 1089 by Porkncheese, posted 07-04-2023 6:17 AM Porkncheese has not replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 1094 by AZPaul3, posted 07-04-2023 2:46 PM Theodoric has not replied

  
AZPaul3
Member
Posts: 8593
From: Phoenix
Joined: 11-06-2006
Member Rating: 4.2


(3)
Message 1094 of 1110 (911442)
07-04-2023 2:46 PM
Reply to: Message 1093 by Theodoric
07-04-2023 2:05 PM


Re: High deaths from covid injections... The new normal
Provide a source.
He can't.
1. Such a source does not exist.
2. Pork is a drive-by clown. He shot his wad with this one. He's gone.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

This message is a reply to:
 Message 1093 by Theodoric, posted 07-04-2023 2:05 PM Theodoric has not replied

  
Phat
Member
Posts: 18388
From: Denver,Colorado USA
Joined: 12-30-2003


Message 1095 of 1110 (911456)
07-05-2023 11:45 PM
Reply to: Message 1092 by AZPaul3
07-04-2023 10:10 AM


Re: High deaths from covid injections... The new normal
AZ writes:
Pork is trying to lie the continuing covid deaths into vaccine-caused deaths.

Such an obvious subterfuge. The attempt is stupefying.
So P&C is an anti-vaxxer? I asked him, assuming he is right, what the solution is?
Overthrow the government? Become a Proud Boy?

This message is a reply to:
 Message 1092 by AZPaul3, posted 07-04-2023 10:10 AM AZPaul3 has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 1096 by AZPaul3, posted 07-06-2023 12:30 AM Phat has seen this message but not replied
 Message 1098 by PaulK, posted 07-06-2023 7:16 AM Phat has seen this message but not replied

  
Newer Topic | Older Topic
Jump to:


Copyright 2001-2023 by EvC Forum, All Rights Reserved

™ Version 4.2
Innovative software from Qwixotic © 2024