Forum: Darwnist Ideology

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Oh so then you could reference me a thread on this forum where these interesting subjects are meaningfully debated

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There are none because YOU have always jumped in and made them into a senseless flame war. You obviously have no intention, capacity, or desire to debate subjects such as eugenics, the science of evolution, the definition of natural selection and its impact on ecology. You are simply a dumbass internet troll.

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Where's the appraissal saying that the study of ecology is welldeveloped

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In the books and articles Quetzal and I cited..see what you miss by not reading? There is no excuse for willful ignorance.

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You see the vulnerability of Darwinism in regards to this issue?

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If the only challenges to the theory of evolution were to come from poorly edcuated, lazy, unread people like you, it would never get properly scrutinized...fortunately there are thousands of scientists worldwide who do apply themselves to the persuit of knowledge...if you ever read you might know this but you rather feel protected in your self erected shield of ignorance.[This message has been edited by Mammuthus, 03-04-2004]

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To make references like that without saying how the references support your opinion that the science of ecology / extinction is well developed is against forum rules.

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Then stop doing it...particularly referencing things you have not read yourself.

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To address your opponent talking about ass all the time is against forum rules.

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If the shoe fits, you know what to do.

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So you reference some books none of which support your position that the science is well developed, but Quetzal manages to wrongly interpret one book saying the study of extinction is well developed.

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At least Quetzal read the freaking book..you did not, you are in no position to say whether he was right or wrong because you have your head up your rectum and refuse to educate yourself.

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You have nothing Mammuthus, is it really so hard to find an appraissal of ecology, or the field of extinction, or are you simply holding back appraissals which don't support you?

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You ARE nothing..is it really so hard to read the references that have been posted to you over and over and over? Do you really take such pleasure in being an idiot, spouting lies and unsupported assertions merely because of your pride in your ignorance? Get your head out of your butt..do your homework little man and come back when you are able to support your assertions with more than the books you have NEVER even read.

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You're really incredibly dumb to publicly waste away your credibility and authority on an internetforum like you do.

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Fortunately for me then that there are virtually no other scientists here ..However, it is incredibly stupid of you to make assertions publicly on an internet forum about a subject you yourself admit you have no interest in reading about. Some of your fellow intellectuals in Nganjuk may think you start to believe you are both stupid and dishonest.

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In reading about evo-devo on the web, I just found out you also misrepresented the evo devo issue somewhere early in this thread.

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I love these specific accusations...from reading elsewhere on the web I found out that you rape turtles in the Galapagos on your yearly vacation...but I am too lazy and to intellectually dishonest to go and find the site or the thread that supports my blatant assertion after having trained at the Syamsu School for Bad Faith Debating and Dry Cleaning School for Kids Who Don't Read..but it is true anyway...I would point to the place in the thread where you admit this but the dog ate the webpage.

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You are the classic example of a scientist who simply assumes everything out of his learned mouth is neutral, but unfortunately your writings are loaded with prejudiced selfserving lies.

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Show me where I have lied...or did your dog eat that page as well?

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Pathetic, there's no excuse for it.

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You certainly are pathetic...your apparent excuse is that you are too lazy to read a book...guess that technology has not reached the hole you apparently live in.

The thread has no chance of producing a productive discussion. This is because the initiator of the thread 1) does not know what he is arguing about 2) has claimed he is not interested or willing to put in the time to learn about it 3) has not read any of the works he thinks support his case and 4) refuses to read anything we claim support our points. Multiple participants on this board in multiple threads have attempted to be reasonable with Syamsu. He has shown that he has no interest in following the forum guidelines but wishes to post the same points over and over. He is no better than an internet troll. Either shut the thread down or leave it open for the rest of us to practice new insults. It will never move beyond this until Sy learns to debate..or learns anything for that matter. After over a year at EvC I have zero expectation that Sy is up to the task.

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Apart from Quetzal and Mammuthus, who here actually believes that the studies of ecology and extinction are well developed? Who here believes Quetzal and Mammuthus on their word, without them referencing *any* appraisal what-so-ever that supports their postion? Or who here has read all the papers and books referenced by Quetzal and Mammuthus and came to any conclusion based on those references?

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Apart from Syamsu, who here thinks that Syamsu is an uneducated, fanatical internet troll who has never read a book on or about science beyond the cover in his life? Raise your hands.Mine raised high

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I just put that about someone reading the references you provided in as a joke.

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And I thought everything you post is a jokeIt would not surprise me if many of the people on this site who know how to read and are not lazy like you HAVE read at least some of the references posted by Quetzal and myself. Particularly the textbooks.

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No one here is ever going to read the references you and Mammuthus provided of course, firstly because it's too much work,

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..only if you are a lazy idiot. Since what we posted is primary literature and textbooks it means basically everyone in the sciences we are discussing has read the materials...except for you...

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and secondly because it can't reasonably be expected that it contains enough information to come to a meaningful appraissal.

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so according to you, you will not read anything, attempt to use your glaring ignorance as support for your assertions, and still maintain that you know what is in the literature you are not reading?...I was right, you really need to remove your head from your rectum..it must be really ripe by now.Here is a picture I found by googling Nganjuk...it shows Syamsu (which means "he who is lazy and ignorant") using the only technology he understands...since he is self admittedly lazy, I am assuming he is the guy sitting doing nothing on the right.

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I didn't ask you for references to studybooks and what not

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Not true, you asked for us to support our claim that what you say is false. You claim it is a "lawyer trick" to make you actually read the references yet you do not take anyones word here for what is contained within those references. So you refuse to read anything anyone posts yet maintain that those references (that you have not read) do not contain the information we claim....Ignorance is bliss man...you must be in a real state of bliss.

It seems the moderators are chickening out on this thread. Here is a dimwit who is questioning the credentials of everyone else on the forum yet self admittedly has never read anything beyond a review at Amazon of lay literature and is also self admittedly too lazy to research the background of his assertions...not only does he not contribute anything signficant (unless you consider this flame war significant) he is himself insignificant.regards
Mam "read more than the Amazon reviews" nor muthus