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Author Topic:   Morality without God is impossible
Percy
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Message 426 of 472 (914213)
01-04-2024 8:04 AM
Reply to: Message 423 by ICANT
01-03-2024 2:34 PM


Re: The evolution of morality
ICANT in Message 423 writes:
Percy writes:
How is this statement any different than, "If leprechauns do not exist you will never know because you will just be dead"? The meaninglessness of the statement must be obvious. Determinations of what likely exists can only be made while alive.
Did the leprechauns you talking about create the universe and everything in it. Including humans in his image and likeness and make all the promises God made. If so yes I would meet him and spend eternity with him.
The analogy was between God and leprechauns, which are imaginary creatures. I guess you can imagine anything you like about either one, like that leprechauns or God created the universe and everything in it, including humans. You let us know when you meet either one, and especially how eternity is going.
If God exists He created you in His image and since he is an eternal being so are you. And you will meet Him one day when you die.
And you know this how?
If He does not exist you don't have anything to worry about.
I worry about anything that doesn't exist to about the same extent.
But you are entitled to believe whatever you choose to believe.
I choose to believe that which is based upon evidence.
Leprechauns Bless.
--Percy

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Percy
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Message 430 of 472 (914222)
01-04-2024 1:53 PM
Reply to: Message 427 by ICANT
01-04-2024 9:38 AM


Re: The evolution of morality
ICANT in Message 427 writes:
Percy writes:
ICANT in Message 423 writes:
If God exists He created you in His image and since he is an eternal being so are you. And you will meet Him one day when you die.
And you know this how?
We talk every day.
And you know this how?
Leprechauns Bless
--Percy

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Percy
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Message 436 of 472 (914252)
01-05-2024 7:03 AM
Reply to: Message 434 by ICANT
01-04-2024 10:03 PM


Re: The evolution of morality
ICANT in Message 434 writes:
Percy writes:
ICANT in Message 427 writes:
Percy writes:
ICANT in Message 423 writes:
If God exists He created you in His image and since he is an eternal being so are you. And you will meet Him one day when you die.
And you know this how?
We talk every day.
And you know this how?
He answers me.
And you know this how?
Leprechauns Bless
--Percy

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Percy
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Message 439 of 472 (914259)
01-05-2024 11:10 AM
Reply to: Message 437 by ICANT
01-05-2024 10:18 AM


Re: The evolution of morality
ICANT in Message 437 writes:
Percy writes:
ICANT in Message 434 writes:
Percy writes:
ICANT in Message 427 writes:
Percy writes:
ICANT in Message 423 writes:
If God exists He created you in His image and since he is an eternal being so are you. And you will meet Him one day when you die.
And you know this how?
We talk every day.
And you know this how?
He answers me.
And you know this how?
I hear Him and see the results.
And you know this how?
Leprechauns Bless
--Percy

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Percy
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Message 443 of 472 (914264)
01-05-2024 5:23 PM
Reply to: Message 441 by ICANT
01-05-2024 2:24 PM


Re: The evolution of morality
ICANT in Message 441 writes:
Tangle writes:
What do you mean 'you hear Him'?
You are talking to me and I hear you.
Actually, Tangle is writing to you and you are reading his words. Obviously that's not what you mean
If Tangle were to talk to you in person or by phone, sound waves would reach your ear. Obviously that's not what you mean, either.
So what do you mean 'you hear Him'? Why is this such a difficult question for you to answer?
--Percy

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Percy
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From: New Hampshire
Joined: 12-23-2000
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Message 452 of 472 (914277)
01-07-2024 8:08 AM
Reply to: Message 444 by ICANT
01-06-2024 10:58 PM


Re: The evolution of morality
ICANT in Message 444 writes:
Percy writes:
Actually, Tangle is writing to you and you are reading his words. Obviously that's not what you mean
Why not don't you get science information that way.
"Why not don't"? Care to try again? Or you can just forget it - this isn't a science thread.
Percy writes:
So what do you mean 'you hear Him'? Why is this such a difficult question for you to answer?
Its not a problem I hear Him just as good as I hear you.
Since you don't hear me at all, then you don't hear Him at all, either.
If I have a problem I can't solve I tell Him I need help and the Holy Spirit gives me the answer.
And He does that how? How do you know it's even a He?
Leprechauns bless!
--Percy

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Percy
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Message 453 of 472 (914278)
01-07-2024 8:13 AM
Reply to: Message 448 by ICANT
01-07-2024 12:31 AM


Re: The evolution of morality
ICANT in Message 448 writes:
So when the Holy Spirit talks to me he sends the signals to my brain or speaks to me through His Word.
And you know it's the Holy Spirit how?
Leprechauns bless!
--Percy

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Percy
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Message 459 of 472 (914296)
01-08-2024 8:52 AM
Reply to: Message 458 by Omnivorous
01-07-2024 7:57 PM


Re: The evolution of morality
When I was around 11 to 13 I had a fan in my room in the summer, and from it's drone beautiful top-40 music would emerge, the same stuff I listened to on the radio. Every voice, every word, every beat, every tambourine tingle, every guitar note, every drum brush, it was all there. It felt so real. The Happenings, the Four Seasons, the Beach Boys, they were all there. I can still do it as an adult, but I have to work at it.
If during that period I had instead been listening to church sermons and reading the Bible then likely the word of God would have emerged from that fan.
Actually, now that I think of it I'm surprised that it didn't because I did listen to Garner Ted Armstrong, telling you the plain truth about today's world events and The World Tomorrow. One of his big things in 1965 and 1966 was the Bible prophecy that Israel would return to Jerusalem and that in The World Tomorrow it would happen. Then there was the 1967 war and Israel *did* return to Jerusalem, but by that time I had moved on to other things.
--Percy

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