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Author Topic:   State Execution in the USA
Phat
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Message 13 of 80 (914733)
01-31-2024 8:22 PM
Reply to: Message 10 by AZPaul3
01-29-2024 9:57 PM


Re: An Eye For An Eye
That could be because of several reasons.
  • Believers do not fear death and do not consider it our sacred responsibility to preserve the life of the condemned. (And why should society collectively pay to guarantee them life without parole? Does anyone know how much that costs? Why should society pay to keep them alive?
    Yes I know Im heartless. jesus should be ashamed of me, according to the bleeding hearts.
    Lets keep each and every human alive...forever if possible. Damn the cost,

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    Message 14 of 80 (914734)
    01-31-2024 8:29 PM
    Reply to: Message 12 by Rahvin
    01-31-2024 7:51 PM


    Collective Forgiveness
    Rahvin writes:
    That depends on what your goals for society are, and how specifically you value human life. Whether you care about recidivism, or redemption, or forgiveness. Whether you care about giving the State the power to kill its citizens.
    Why are we suddenly worried about the power to kill when so many deadly wars are part of our daily news? In the rare cases where the death penelty is suggested, its not a big deal to collectively snuff out a life. The issue boils down to the humaneness and the method. Not the stupid ethics of a society ill equipped to judge itself.

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    Message 22 of 80 (914745)
    02-01-2024 1:03 AM
    Reply to: Message 21 by AZPaul3
    01-31-2024 11:34 PM


    Re: An Eye For An Eye
    OK I get it. Society should pay more to incarcerate these people than we do for legitimate homeless people or even ordinary citizens. Its all too easy to pass legislation with other peoples money, isnt it.
    All just to keep a guy alive. Some life he has.

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    Message 50 of 80 (914792)
    02-02-2024 3:18 PM
    Reply to: Message 49 by ICANT
    02-02-2024 3:06 PM


    Re: Capital Punishment
    I agree that citizens should not be forced to pay for taking care of these people. We have enough on our plates and the incarcerated should be self supporting, as long as they are alive. Ifr people want to make a difference, they should support education before these people become mentally ill. It does little good to support someone who is broken when it is too late to help them.

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    Message 51 of 80 (914793)
    02-02-2024 3:23 PM
    Reply to: Message 48 by ICANT
    02-02-2024 2:55 PM


    Re: Capital Punishment
    Rahvin writes:
    The path to salvation is not a straight one, ICANT. People stumble and fall. We do it even more collectively than individually.
    ICANT writes:
    This is one of those places we seem to disagree on.
    I too disagree. Salvation is not achieved through collective societal altruism. It is an individual decision.
    Throwing money at social problems is not always the best or only solution.

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    Message 62 of 80 (914808)
    02-04-2024 6:01 AM
    Reply to: Message 60 by Minnemooseus
    02-03-2024 10:17 PM


    Re: Culling
    The EFT "Christians" were deeply offended that the convicted be given such a choice.
    Perhaps it was their wallets that were offended. I can think of no other good reason.

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