The Historical Jesus: Did He Create the Universe?

And we're pretty sure the universe is bigger than just the parts we can see, so there are probably far more than that.We think all matter in the universe was once in the same place around 13.8 billion years ago by projecting the current motion of galaxies backward in time.--Percy

Hi GDR, GDR I don't claim nor have I ever claimed to be a Christian.
I do claim to be a born again child of the KingA Christian is a person who is living a life like Jesus did and I don't know anybody that is living a sinless perfect life. No. The only persons I believe could have had any type of dictation was Moses on the mountain and Paul in the desert. everybody else was allowed to use their experiences and teachings they received from Jesus in His personal teachings during His ministry. Along with their observations. Matthew wrote as a tax collector and historian. Mark wrote as a slave. Luke wrote as a physician. John wrote as a family member. Paul wrote as a pharisee who had an encounter with Jesus and was born again and was determined to do as good a job at the latter as he had done as the former. He wrote about the Pharisee's but he wrote to the gentiles as that was his mission. Maybe it don't matter to you but it does to me, Genesis 1:1 states:

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In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

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In Hebrew that is a declarative statement of the completed action of the verb by the subject of the of the verb which resulted in the heavens and the earth existing as a completed product.If that statement is not correct God is a Liar or He does not exist since He can not lie.So, yes it is very important.God Bless,

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Reality seems to favor the latter.

Hi Percy, I know it was all in one place at one time it was just a lot bigger place than a pen point or a pea sized universe. Every time they work on the telescope the known universe gets bigger.The problem is that scientist can only fathom the universe being only 13.8 billion years old.If you remember back in 2008 I made the statement 'I believe the universe has always existed in some form just not necessarily as we see it today'.I haven't changed my mind. So since the energy has always existed in essence the universe has always existed and we will never see the end of it.That is one thing Einstein was correct about believing the universe always existed. If he could have met me after 1950 before he Died I would have made him a happy man.God Bless,

Hi Paul, If what you believe was true the universe would not exist;God Bless,

Yet, it does, just as required.

Hi Paul, And you think that little pea sized universe had enough energy packed into it to create every thing in 2 trillion Galaxies + how many more trillion may be out there.Or are you believing in Guth's Zero energy universe that can just continue building Galaxies? You do know his zero universe never gained any traction?God Bless

Hi Paul, Yes the universe does exist in spite of what you believe.Now if you could give me the source of the energy that existed in that little pea sized universe that expanded unto our present universe you could really impress me.God Bless,

Then the problem doesn't exist. You haven't kept up. JWST came on line and has rocked the universe. 13.8 is still the consensus but the deep field studies are throwing up some surprising results. Numbers like 28 billion and more are being hypothesized. Cosmologists are in their happy place building new models and salivating over new studies. This is a most glorious time for cosmologists. You're missing out. You said it couldn't. How do you know? Where's your evidence? If you don't, then why? This is ICANT cosmology. What is the energy balance of the ICANT universe? I'm not here to impress you. This is your thread, Reverend. You say it cannot be done. Why?

Hi PaulK, You think of Jesus like most people do.I think of Him like Matthew the tax collector who had all the history of the Israelites. So this man called Jesus was God in the flesh. I believe He was God. This is the reason the Jews killed Him, He claimed to be God. John says the Word which is Jesus/God created everything that existsGod Bless,

Talk about splitting hairs. Like me you are simply a flawed Christian.
​ It is only important to you because it has to fit with how you contend the Bible should be understood. Essentially you place your understanding of the Bible over what Jesus taught and did. Remember it is Christianity and not Biblianity.

Talk about splitting hairs. Like me you are simply a flawed Christian.
​ It is only important to you because it has to fit with how you contend the Bible should be understood. Essentially you place your understanding of the Bible over what Jesus taught and did. Remember it is Christianity and not Biblianity.

Hi AZ, When they get to eternal they will have arrived at the right number. There is 10^69 joules of mass and energy in the visible universe.That don't cover the added Galaxies that was just discovered.There is no way to put 10^69 joules of mass and energy in something the size of a pea. that can only be done by the imagination of a man so far as there is no mechanism to accomplish that feat.You give me the mechanism and I will figure out why it still won't fit.An assumption is not a mechanism.Wait a minute I will go ahead and tell you why that pea sized universe can't hold the 10^69 joules of mass and energy that it would take to produce the visible
universe we see today.At T=0 There was no existence. No time, no space, no vacuum, no pea sized universe, no energy, and no mass.So anything that began to exist quintillionth of a second later had to come from somewhere to begin to exist.The only it began to exist was in someone's mind. Then assumed to be there. Energy is unlimited and can be added at any time necessary. Most cosmologist don't accept Guth's hypothesis why should I? You could have fooled me that you were not trying to impress me, or are you just trying to intimidate me?In my universe there is no problem to do anything, but if you
have an unlimited supply of energy why cram it into such a small space when you can add all that is needed at any time.It seems like in your little universe everything you think is a fact.God Bless,

Hi GDR, The word christian only appears 3 times in the bible.In Acts 11:26 The disciples were called little Christos because they were living a life like Christ did. Are you living a life like Christ did? He was perfect I am far from perfect yet, I won't be perfect until I inhabit my new body. Would you please explain where I misquoted the scriptures or mis-represented what they say. Don't be bashful about it I can take constructive criticism any time.God Bless,