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Topic: Phat Unplugged
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9489 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 6.2
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Message 350 of 523 (916690)
03-09-2024 1:16 PM
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Reply to: Message 348 by Phat
03-09-2024 12:11 PM
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Re: Fantasy and Reality
My Niece wants a younger option.
As do I. Alas, we have what we have.
My conservative friend says that there is only one truth.
More conservative than you? Truth is amorphous. No two people have the same truth.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9489 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 6.2
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Message 352 of 523 (916698)
03-09-2024 3:57 PM
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Reply to: Message 351 by Phat
03-09-2024 3:33 PM
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Re: Fantasy and Reality
Finding truth is like trying to nail jello to the wall.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9489 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 6.2
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Message 354 of 523 (919632)
07-18-2024 11:02 AM
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Reply to: Message 353 by Phat
07-18-2024 10:06 AM
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Re: I want to communicate rather than be a troll
You are a troll and christian white supremacist. End of discussion.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up, why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9489 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 6.2
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Message 357 of 523 (919639)
07-18-2024 1:27 PM
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Reply to: Message 353 by Phat
07-18-2024 10:06 AM
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Re: I want to communicate rather than be a troll
In rereading this I find it hard to believe that you have any positivity or creativity.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up, why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9489 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 6.2
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Message 360 of 523 (919642)
07-18-2024 4:09 PM
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Reply to: Message 355 by nwr
07-18-2024 11:32 AM
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Re: I want to communicate rather than be a troll
None of the right and/or religious wingnuts we get here want to communicate. They have no desire to discuss. They want to preach. They expect us to accept their lunatic ravings at face value. True believers (in whatever and all of what Phat believes) cannot be swayed by logical discourse. Logical discourse is the work of the devil. Phat and all these other religious nutbags think that all of us that question them are atheists. I am, but the majority here are not. Yet the nutters think you all are. Heck, the think the other nutbags that don't agree with them are atheists too. They vent because they get frustrated when we don't just cheer and praise glory when they, for the umpteenth time, say. "Yadda, yadda, Jesus, something, something"
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up, why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9489 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 6.2
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Message 361 of 523 (919643)
07-18-2024 4:23 PM
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Reply to: Message 358 by Phat
07-18-2024 3:56 PM
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Re: I want to communicate rather than be a troll
You have been here almost 21 years. You have learned nothing in that time. Absolutely nothing. Today I had a meeting with my handicapped adult son and the company that does his job coaching. We are dealing with the same issues we were 20 years ago. He does well for a time and then cycles down and becomes difficult. He is on intense psychotropic meds but we have to be careful, so he does not zombify. Today we had the same conversations we have had countless times before. In the meeting and now I was aware of the comparison between that and you here on EVC. The difference is, though my son is 41 years old, he functions a lot like a 10-year-old. He is and will always be a boy in a man's body. With all of the needs, desires and wants of a 41-year-old body. You do not function at that level, but you have shown no more ability to learn and change than my developmentally disabled son. Your ignorance and idiocy are willful. Right now, you are either lying to us or lying to yourself. I guess you might be doing both.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up, why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9489 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 6.2
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Message 369 of 523 (919663)
07-20-2024 9:22 PM
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Reply to: Message 368 by DrJones*
07-20-2024 7:44 PM
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Re: Pennsylvania 6-5000
For misogynistic reasons. God forbid someone look to others for advice in order to make the right decision. Better to just make a snap decision with no input. Idiot.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up, why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9489 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 6.2
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Message 377 of 523 (919683)
07-22-2024 1:40 PM
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Reply to: Message 375 by PaulK
07-22-2024 1:10 PM
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Re: Pennsylvania 6-5000
To be fair. There are other allegations.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up, why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9489 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 6.2
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Message 385 of 523 (919695)
07-23-2024 10:38 AM
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Reply to: Message 384 by dwise1
07-23-2024 10:16 AM
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The right wing pecking order view of society has taken over. Then again, has character ever really mattered that much? I can give a list of hundreds of rogues, liars and charlatans that have been elected to office in the USA. It has only been since the days of instant media that we have been able to ush back against them.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up, why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9489 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 6.2
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Message 419 of 523 (920200)
09-11-2024 12:46 PM
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Reply to: Message 416 by Phat
09-10-2024 10:59 PM
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Re: Reconsidering my choice for President
My only concern is for the financial future of our Nation. Bullshit. You only care about your financial future. You are horrible figuring out what is best for your financial future. Giving the rich and corporations more money will not improve your financial future.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up, why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9489 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 6.2
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Re: The Gross National Product, getting more and more gross
But that is how economies work. I am not sure a moral judgement is helpful in this conversation. Also, nations and economies are not analogous to human bodies. Your statements about cancer seem to be similar to the use of the term "social darwinisn". So removed from the original to have no meaning. I may rewrite this. Not sure if I adequately explained. Edited by Theodoric, : word missing
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up, why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9489 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 6.2
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Re: The Gross National Product, getting more and more gross
o, thrash the Earth, if it keeps the economy working? I guess that also includes not being concerned about global warming / climate change.
Nice strawman. Not worth responding to.
But the functions of humanity does seem to be a disease inflicted upon the Earth's resources and ecology.
Do you have a proposal to deal with this or just going to bitch? Nope. None of the links are relevant.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up, why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9489 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 6.2
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Re: The Gross National Product, getting more and more gross
You're denying that keeping the GDP ever growing does not have a severe adverse affect on the Earth's ecology?
Nope. That is your strawman argument. There are ways to grow an economy and be environmentally conscious. Because our current economic system does not, does not preclude that possibility. Lots of people are working on that.
I see a problem. I don't see a solution. I think the Earth's ecology is going down the toilet (aka "is fucked").
I have no children. My little branch of the human tree is not going to be involved. Thoughts and prayers to your descendants. I refuse to give up. I too will have no descendants. My kids are all adopted. My line ends with me. I am not so selfish to think that evolution has anything to do with my personal genetics. Evolution cares nothing about individuals. It works on the species level. We will work without you. Your help is not needed. If we fail, we fail. At least we put in the effort.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up, why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9489 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 6.2
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Message 435 of 523 (920263)
09-16-2024 12:53 PM
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Reply to: Message 434 by Phat
09-16-2024 8:08 AM
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Re: Political Ideologies Expressed
bullshit. This new generation is no different from every other generation. There are hard workers and lazy POS's in every generation. A certain % of every generation thinks they are entitled. The generation following me is the first generation in our national history that does not look forward to a brighter future than their parents. You and this idiot are just perpetuating the right wing tradition of othering other people. This is no different than JD Vance claiming Haitians are eating pets. You and this idiot are lumping all young people together so you can feel higher on your made up social pecking order. He is just another grifter pushing dubious financial advice and investments. You claim you have no money, why do you watch these shysters. Instead of whining and bitching, why don't you use your privilege to leave them a better world than we have now.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up, why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9489 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 6.2
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Message 438 of 523 (920293)
09-19-2024 3:30 PM
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Reply to: Message 436 by Phat
09-19-2024 2:57 PM
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Re: Political Ideologies Expressed
Who are these guests? List some? What evidence does this yahoo present to support his ideas? Anything? Why should I believe anything he claims? Why is his opinion more valid than mine? I do not label him an idiot because he is conservative. I label him as an idiot because he is making unevidenced assertions. Manipulating people like you is so easy an idiot could and does do it. You have no idea what mine or the guests intelligence is. You have never met any of us.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up, why would you have to lie?
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