So it seems. We have seen the Phatman cycle mood/intellect and blood sugar periodically over the years though this cognitive low point does seem troubling.
Hopefully he can get his chemistry right. He is a lot of fun in these parts and it would be good to have that back.
This bout seems especially pernicious. Wonder if there is another factor in play or if his diabetes is completely out if control. I have a like/hate relationship with the guy.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up, why would you have to lie?
All gods are fiction, imaginary, invisible, powerless figments of your imagination.
It's pathetic that your fear of god is the only reason you are a halfway decent human being!
Anything is better than having to spend eternity with the likes of you!
then they will trimble like scared little girls.
I have always seen girls as far braver than boys.
ABE: And by the way, you don't get to assign one of your fictional gods to me, so go fuck yourself! Satan is all yours, Asshole!
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Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that it has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --Percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
Why should anyone debate someone who doesn't know the subject? -- AZPaul3
I simply wonder how anyone can believe that they are descended from animals who sniffed each others butts, and picked lice and fleas off of each other.
I simply wonder how anyone can believe that a divine being created them to sniff each other's butts, and pick lice and fleas off of each other.
You want pics just say the word.
I imagine we'll see the "not true Christians" argument next.
That key on the right of your keyboard that says "return" or has some equivalent symbol? Have you ever wondered what would happen if you just ignored it?
I simply wonder how anyone can believe that they are descended from animals who sniffed each others butts, and picked lice and fleas off of each other.
So is it safe to assume that you think any sex act except man on top, vaginal penetration is an abomination? Are women allowed to enjoy themselves or have an orgasmm?
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up, why would you have to lie?
Nor are we interested in your family photos of dirt.
I suppose that you also deny that we are mammals. Or vertebrates.
The Creation is what it is, despite your constant denial of it. And its Creator created it as it is, despite your constant denial.
More pearls before you swine. There's a Christian (believer in Divine Creation) who's also a scientist. Refer to Clint's Reptiles of YouTube. You refuse to listen to any atheist. Well, he's not one, though you will also refuse to listen to him too (hence, this is for the benefit of everyone else, since you are irredeemably lost).
The first video of his I watched has him declaring his faith and describing his many contacts with creationists trying to get them to stop with their stupid strawman arguments and instead develop a "Steelman" form of creationism, one that presents actual arguments with a valid basis:
Regarding this latest idiocy of yours, here is another video of Clint's :
It also addresses one of your standard creationist lies of which you remain unrepentant by showing that you cannot evolve out of your clade. That means that mammals remain mammals, placentals remain placentals, primates remain primates, Haplorhini remain Haplorhini, Simiiformes remain Simiiformes, Hominidae remain Hominidae, Homininae remain Homininae, Hominini remain Hominini, and Homo remain Homo.
To put that more directly, Man is Man, but Man is still in all his ancestral clades, therefore Man is still Homo, Hominini, Homininae, Hominidae, Simiiformes, Haplorhini, primate, placental, mammal, and Animalia. We have never evolved out of any of our ancestral clades, nor could we ever do so regardless of however times you repeat that creationist lie.
Or as one comment summarized it:
quote:
"humans aren't monkeys" - creationists "humans are monkeys" - people who understand evolution "humans aren't monkeys, they're apes" - people who start learning evolutionary history "humans are apes and apes are monkeys, so humans are monkeys" - people who understand cladistics
Sadly, it is too late for candle2 to learn anything, but that is no reason for him to hold the rest of us back.
POST SCRIPT
Some of my fellow Intelligent Designers (AKA engineers) who had worked in defense should recognize Clint's term, STEELMAN, though he might not have known about this context (or perhaps he did).
Such terms are used in the incremental design of major projects, especially DoD, as described in the Wikipedia article, Straw Man Proposal (not to be confused with straw man arguments).
The expression was already in use in the United States Department of Defense circa 1975 in their Large Organization Model Building paradigm (LOMB) and was apparently in use with this meaning (initial proposal) in the United States Air Force before that. The succession of names comes from the requirements document for the programming language Ada. In the High Order Language Working Group (HOLWG) the process to define Ada generated requirements documents sporting different names, representing the various stages of development of the Ada language, as described in 1993 by Col William Whitaker in an article ACM SIGPLAN Notices. They are:
STRAWMAN issued in April 1975
WOODENMAN issued in August 1975
TINMAN issued in January 1976
IRONMAN issued in January 1977 (revised in July 1977)
SANDMAN not published but circulated in January 1978
STEELMAN issued in June 1978
PEBBLEMAN issued in July 1978
PEBBLEMAN Revised and issued in January 1979
STONEMAN issued in February 1980
Other references include "The Ada Environment", LTC Rodney A. Edge, Walter Reed Army Institute of Research, Washington, DC 20307, Thomas A. Marciniak, M.D., National Cancer Institute, Bethesda, MD 20205
Software development
In software development, a crude plan or document may serve as the strawman or starting point in the evolution of a project. The strawman is not expected to be the last word; it is refined until a final model or document is obtained that resolves all issues concerning the scope and nature of the project. In this context, a strawman can take the form of an outline, a set of charts, a presentation, or a paper.
The ‘Straw Man’ also fits in neatly with the concept of iterative design, repeating and re-drafting to improve an initial concept or design. If anything is built, often, it may not end up in the final product. It might be that the decision is to not continue at all, in which case, the ‘Straw Man’ approach may have saved a lot of wasted work in the long run. Or, the final approach may be very different from the first model. Either way, the ‘Straw Man’ will have proven its worth by having re-directed the approach before any significant work is undertaken.
As I recall from the DoD's printing of MIL-STD-1815 (AKA "the Green Book" after the green cover emblematic of the language proposal which was code-named "Green"), the metal and non-metal names denoted parallel design tracks, one for the software and the other for the hardware platforms (as I seem to recall from forty years ago). I gave that copy of MIL-STD-1815 to my boss while keeping the Springer-Verlag printing for myself which does not include the design description.
The first video I presented, the one that urges creationists to stop with the stupid strawman arguments and instead formulate an actual valid position, especially caught my attention, because that's what I've been trying for decades to get creationists to do (from My Cre-Ev website):
quote:If you honestly and truly want to fight evolution, then at least do it right! Learn everything you can about evolution and then attack it, not some stupid strawman caricature of it. And do so honestly and truthfully!
By refusing to fight evolution honestly and truthfully, but rather using "creation science" instead, you are constantly shooting yourself in the foot, dooming your cause to failure and your followers to losing their faith.
But do they ever listen? No. Again, Marcus Lycus to his slave who won't ever do anything to try to improve himself:
quote:But you'll never learn, you'll be a eunuch all your life.
They'll never learn. They'll be nothing but stupid creationists all their life. Laughed at and scorned for their stupidity everywhere they go -- except when they slink into the darkness of fellow creationists, all of them fearful of the clear and bright gaze of normals.
And doing immeasurable damage to their religion in the process, not only through their personal examples of dishonesty, but also because their arguments explicitly demand that if they are wrong then so are their religion, the Bible, and God. They explicitly claim that the only alternative to their false claims is atheism. Eg:
quote:John Morris as reported at the 1986 International Conference on Creationism: ("The 1986 International Conference on Creationism" by Robert Schadewald, Creation/Evolution Newsletter, Volume 6, Number 5, September/October 1986, NCSE, pp 8-14.)
"If the earth is more than 10,000 years old then Scripture has no meaning."
John L. Groenlund, What is the Purpose of Creation Ministry, in Institute for Creation Research Back to Genesis Report No. 78, June 1995:
"If evolution is true, then the Bible is not true."
Science does not disprove God, nor does it try to. Rather, it is creationism that disproves God in so many ways including by its own rules.
I can't help but hear George Carlin in my head whenever I see someone write about Hell.
"Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man -- living in the sky -- who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want You to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time! But He loves you."--George Carlin
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