candle2 in Message 531 writes:
Tanypteryx, you wrote:
"And once evidence is distorted to fit their world view it loses it's value as evidence."
***Evidence can be distorted by anyone. No group has a monopoly on it.
AND when it is distorted by anyone to fit their world view it loses it's value as evidence.
candle2 in Message 531 writes:
It is an accepted fact that Jesus lived and died. He was crucified on a stauros. The majority of scholars accept this as fact.
It is not an accepted fact, by billions of people, and you have not demonstrated that a majority of scholars accept it, considering that you have shown no verifiable independent evidence that it is not fiction.
What does this have to do with the subject of this thread?
candle2 in Message 531 writes:
The disagreement is in the resurrection of Jesus from the dead.
And the lack of any independent supporting evidence that Jesus existed. And what does this have to do with the subject of this thread?
candle2 in Message 531 writes:
Many scientists refuse to accept this because it goes against nature and physics.
Scientists need supporting evidence, but this still does not address the subject of this thread.
candle2 in Message 531 writes:
Note that it is not science that reject the resurrection; it is scientists who reject.
Actually, there is no independent supporting
scientific evidence for the resurrection of any character in your story.
candle2 in Message 531 writes:
Scientists reject the resurrection because it involves the supernatural. They make assumptions.
Nope, you have that wrong, scientists reject it because there is not a shred of supporting evidence. They assume there would be supporting evidence if it's true, but we are still waiting for you to explain how anything you have said relates to the subject of this thread.
candle2 in Message 531 writes:
Everybody knows that no one dies and comes back to life. It is, by natural processes, impossible.
What does this have to do with the subject of this thread?
candle2 in Message 531 writes:
But, by utilizing the same logic, it is also impossible for life to come from non-life, from nothing. This is the law of nature.
Can you name that law of nature?
Please explain what this has to do with the subject of this thread.
candle2 in Message 531 writes:
The Apostles and Disciples believed that Jesus rose from the dead.
You are just making stuff up now. The stories were written 100+ years after the supposed events, so you couldn't possibly know what anyone from that time believed. Please explain what this has to do with the subject of this thread.
candle2 in Message 531 writes:
A man will give his life for a cause that he believes, even if the belief is wrong.
Stll nothing about the subject of this thread.
More nothing. This is pointless.
candle2 in Message 531 writes:
The disciples ran when Jesus was arrested and crucified. They were scared to death.
They did not expect their Messiah to come back from the
dead.
Once the Messiah of a cult is dead, the cult falls apart. Jesus' disciples denied knowing Him. They were hiding behind closed doors (for fear of the Jews) when the resurrected Christ appeared to them.
The Jews believed that the Messiah would overthrow the Romans and establish His Kingdom when He appeared.
Jesus did not do that. And worse still He was treated as a common criminal. He was taken, beaten, spat on, and crucified. He died a horrible death.
Every bit of belief that they had in Him was now purged from them. He was not the One.
These same men, who feared for their lives, were suddenly emboldened. They were no longer afraid to die. Only one explanation will suffice. The saw and embraced the living Lord: Jesus.
Men did not believe in the resurrection because of the New Testament. They believed in the New Testament because of the resurrection.
I will write the rest of what I want to say after I walk the dogs at the pound.
I love these dogs, and I hate to see them living in cages. I walk each if them for 15-20 minutes twice a week.
I do this at two animal shelters. I would like for more people to visit their animal shelters. There are many dogs and cats that need a hood home.
Some have been horribly treated.
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