The Salesmen of the Green New Deal

"science doesn't consider CFCs as green house gas emissions and if they were referred as such in the scientific literature it is an error.""Just to make sure that an important distinction is clear, CFC's are a greenhouse gas."There appears to be a contradiction here.

That's false. Those are seen as two different issues, and the problem with CFCs is seen as mostly solved.

Nope, repeating incorrect statements doesn't make them less incorrect. CO2 reflects infrared and causes heat to be trapped in the atmosphere and is not a threat to the stratospheric ozone layer.A completely different manmade molecule, CFC was found to destroy stratospheric ozone molecules letting more UV reach the Earth's surface potentially causing damage to living systems, but is not causing global warming.These are 2 unrelated issues caused by 2 completely different chemicals having 2 completely different affects on the planet. Lots and lots and lots of new facts have been discovered in the 30+ years since the facts you are relying on were last paid attention to. New facts showing lots of your facts are incorrect or incomplete.Thousands and thousands of masters and PhD dissertations on the chemistry and physics of these subjects have been researched and published and then those scientists went on and spent their careers studying and publishing more of their data.And also during that time millions of more chemical sensor and weather reporting stations have been connected to the growing array of climate and atmospheric and oceanic monitoring networks that also include thousands of satellites monitoring our planet continuously!Whole new technologies have been developed for all this monitoring as well as hooking up some of the planets most powerful computer systems to crunch the data.Do you really think you have credible evidence that it's all bullshit? That the silly crap you've written here refutes all that?

The depletion of the ozone layer by CFCs was pretty much solved when CFCs were banned internationally.

And CFCs were banned so they don't play a role in the global warming issue.

"typical Christian Cult of Ignorance example"That is quite a creative description you have there! Congradulations.Despite this, along with the rigorous test routine you've shared, you seem to remain blissfully ignorant of the fact that in the 66 years of ozone research, not one scientist or study has shown a permanent change in the size of the southern anomoly, and not a single molecule said to be of a threat to the ozone has ever actually been observed in its journey through the tropopause. Thus so long as you insist on holding to the concept of man-generated ozone depletion and global warming, you are believing a false gospel, you are an embarrassment both to the scientific community and ultimately to yourself, and your opinion of how well I represent Christianity means nothing.

"science doesn't consider CFCs as green house gas emissions and if they were referred as such in the scientific literature it is an error."
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"Just to make sure that an important distinction is clear, CFC's are a greenhouse gas.""That's false. Those are seen as two different issues, and the problem with CFCs is seen as mostly solved."
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These are contradictions. However, regardless of their similarities or differences, there was never any true, scientific evidence to believe that CFC's were a problem.

Just to be clear -- you g ave three quotes, and claimed them to contradict.However, only one of those was quoting me. So you have not actually shown any contradiction in what I wrote.If you want to be take seriously, then try providing citations to support your assertions.

You have not demonstrated that, but why are you here going on and on to us here about something that was finished decades ago?Are you on a mission to teach your version of history to random strangers on internet forums? It's old news, who cares?

Yeah, sentences from you and me are contradictory, but even though CFCs can act as greenhouse gases since they are not being produced they are not contributing to the Earth's Green House Effect at this time or coincidentally destroying ozone either.I should have phrased it more clearly.

Yes, three quotes from three people:"science doesn't consider CFCs as green house gas emissions and if they were referred as such in the scientific literature it is an error."
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"Just to make sure that an important distinction is clear, CFC's are a greenhouse gas."
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"That's false. Those are seen as two different issues, and the problem with CFCs is seen as mostly solved."
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Two of them, including yours, is contradictory to the middle statement.
These two statements happen to be false. CFC's are considered a greenhouse gas, along with carbon dioxide, water vapor and other things including ozone itself. None of them are a problem.

Actually, the fact that CFC's do not pose a threat to the ozone was shown right in the first message. There is a lot of other information yet to be shared that demonstrate it as well. Who cares whether you think its old news?

So the ozone layer is keeping you from being raptured? OK I get it now. Carry on.

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Present his research. The science shows he was wrong. I assume he is dead by now.